[governance] TR: Apologies and thanks

[McTim]

On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Jean-Louis
FULLSACK<jlfullsack at orange.fr> wrote:
> Dear McTim
>
> You wrote :
> <but the PS is doing this already:
> <http://www.gsmworld.com/our-work/development-fund/energy/index.htm
>
>
> This is certainly a very interesting initiative but reduced to some
> applications in the mobile networks/systems. We need a far more extended R&D
> work to be carried out especialy in the integration of both ER and ICT
> concepts and principles for the whole spectrum of ICT/Telecom equipment.
> That is the fundament of my proposal.
>
>> This is what IXen do. Once we have at least 2 cables per coast in
>> Africa (and fiber backhaul to the interior) this need SHOULD become
>> moot. It will, in theory, no longer matter if traffic leaves Africa,
>> just as it doesn't matter if traffic from a European User transits the
>> USA on it's journey to a European server (and back).
>
> What is IXen ?


the plural of IXP (Internet Exchange Point)


> The problem isn't "to moot" once the "two cables per coast ..." exist, BUT
> to avoid any cable to be laid and paid if it isn't an INTEGRATED part in an
> efficient target network.

The facts are clear, EASSy cable system was introduced as a concept ~6
years ago.  Since then, it's been all intergov talk and
financing/political wrangles.  SEACOM idea came about ~2 years ago,
and it is being completed this month.

EASSy is an integrated network....depite the fact that it may never be bulit.

> In addition I'd remind you that every transport and transit has a cost !
> Even transporting and changing photons in electrons and conversely ! And for
> Gigapackets to cross twice the Atlantic it has a price, even for (richer)
> Europeans. As an enginer I cannot accept such schemes based on short
> financial views be guidelines in network design.

Yes, but unfortuantely, engineers only run the networks, they don't
run the companies that own the networks ;-/

 Especially of one keeps in
> mind what happened -and how many billions were spent without any further
> use- during the dot.com bubble. Just an example, there were at that time 23
> "pan-european networks" existing in parallel and actually some of them are
> simply forgotten ... If we are to help Africa in its way for development we
> should be very careful and "technology and econoy driven" in our
> proposals especially as OPERATION & MAINTENANCE is the other major problem
> in any network, and more particularly in Africa than in the RoW. A good
> design for a network is this one that is resilient, survivable, upgradable,
> maintenable ... and affordable for the operators over the lifetime.
>
> < In Africa, most of our traffic leaves the continent, as there isn't
>> the local content and applications available to keep traffic within
>> the continent.
>
> As a friend of Africa I cannot accept this statement.

Well it's the current reality, whether you accept it or not.

I hope that Africans
> will progressively (and at a good pace) develop THEIR own content and
> applications and put them as soon as possible on the "pipes" for the sake of
> their populations, economy and culture ! Shouldn't the CS from everywhere
> support strongly this hope ?

of course, but until then....


-- 
Cheers,

McTim
"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
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