[governance] EU-elections german pirates party censored

[Fouad Bajwa]

Sounds like the supporter region of peer-2-peer production is now
banning p2p...........interesting concept.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Peter Dambier<peter at peter-dambier.de> wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> in germany we are accused of beeing leftist and I guess that
> was the reason why our provider (alfahosting.info) shut our
> webside down.
>
> The holder of the domain is Andreas Popp and no, the problem
> is not he but I can say alfahosting is. They complained about
> free music and free movies produced by the pirates themselves.
>
> Kind regards
> Peter
>
>
> David Goldstein wrote:
>>
>> Sorry, I can't support a political party such as The Pirate Party that has
>> its origins in "extreme rightwing politics" through the money man, Carl
>> Lundström. Then there's "Gottfrid Svartholm Varg and Frederik Neij, the
>> nerds who run The Pirate
>> Bay itself, have also been accused by the prosecutor of tax evasion."
>>
>> See the rest of this unsavoury tale at
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/feb/26/read-me-first-pirate-bay.
>>
>> So are all these people involved in The Pirate Party?
>>
>> By the way, this so-called "censoring" of "piratenpartei.net" - is the
>> same sort of or similar censoring as was alleged against Wikileaks in
>> Germany, when it turned out the problem lay with the holder of the domain
>> name?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Peter Dambier <peter at peter-dambier.de>
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 6:16:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [governance] EU-elections german pirates party censored
>>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> the Swedish Pirate Party has spread all over europe. The German Pirates
>> Party
>> is one of them. When enough pirates from other european countries have
>> made
>> it to Bruxelles we are allowed to form a block. Right now we are glad one
>> of
>> us has made it.
>>
>> The Pirate Bay was our first hoster and when they were banned was the
>> first
>> time the Pirates were banned too. Today, counting the members of the party
>> the Pirates are number 3 in Sweden and the Pirates Youth Organisation is
>> the biggest Youth Organisation in Sweden and the Queen pays many visits to
>> them.
>>
>> In Germany our youth have founded an organisation right now and their
>> number are growing very fast.
>>
>> In copyright we think very much like the french inventor
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Marie_Jacquard
>>
>> who invented the loom mechanism controlled by punched card.
>> That machine was almost a computer.
>>
>> Jacquard gave his invention to the french people for free. That was the
>> first time of Public Domain I guess. In return the french government
>> gave him an old age pension so his invention was not in vain.
>>
>> Today Copyright Law is a mess. The French Revolution probably would not
>> have happend today.
>>
>> In the beginning computer programmes have been free too. Without that
>> windows would not even exist. That is why we need a reform of Copyright
>> Law.
>>
>> Censoring one of our sites was a misshap. But misshaps do happen and that
>> is why we don't want censoring in the first place.
>>
>> If only people had been talking to each other but that is exactly what
>> censoring is about.
>>
>> Lives of people do depend on Open Access today. It is not ok to let them
>> die just for profit. That is why we need to reform the copyright into a
>> right of copy :)
>>
>> Copying music with a computer that has a copyright tax on it to a cd that
>> has a copyright tax on it and the tax is payed to the music industry
>> already
>> but the music industry insists that copy is prohibited - that is only one
>> side of the coin.
>>
>> The other side is people starving because the genes of the pig are
>> copyrighted.
>>
>> By the way I know of artists "starving" because the tax is payed to the
>> copyright industry and not to the artists.
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Peter
>>
>> Ian Peter wrote:
>>>
>>> According to media reports the Pirate Party has won one or two seats in
>>> EU?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-wins-and-enters-the-european-parliament
>>> -090607/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> According to Wikipedia, The Pirate Party (Swedish: Piratpartiet) is a
>>> political party in Sweden. It strives to reform laws regarding copyright
>>> and
>>> patents. The agenda also includes support for a strengthening of the
>>> right
>>> to privacy, both on the Internet and in everyday life, and the
>>> transparency
>>> of state administration.
>>>
>>> Its formation appears to have something to do with the banning of file
>>> sharing site, Pirate Bay?
>>>
>>> This appears to be some sort of first for internet and governance?
>>> Interested in reports from those who know more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/06/09 8:21 AM, "Peter Dambier" <peter at peter-dambier.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> right during the eu-elections the website
>>>>
>>>> piratenpartei.net
>>>>
>>>> of the german pirates party gets censored by their
>>>> hoster alfahosting.info.
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly enough that website is unreachable too.
>>>> Afraid of emails I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Have a nice weekend
>>>> Peter
>>>
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