[governance] EU-elections german pirates party censored

[Peter Dambier]

Hello David,

in germany we are accused of beeing leftist and I guess that
was the reason why our provider (alfahosting.info) shut our
webside down.

The holder of the domain is Andreas Popp and no, the problem
is not he but I can say alfahosting is. They complained about
free music and free movies produced by the pirates themselves.

Kind regards
Peter


David Goldstein wrote:
> Sorry, I can't support a political party such as The Pirate Party that has its origins in "extreme rightwing politics" through the money man, Carl Lundström. Then there's "Gottfrid Svartholm Varg and Frederik Neij, the nerds who run The Pirate
> Bay itself, have also been accused by the prosecutor of tax evasion."
> 
> See the rest of this unsavoury tale at http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/feb/26/read-me-first-pirate-bay.
> 
> So are all these people involved in The Pirate Party?
> 
> By the way, this so-called "censoring" of "piratenpartei.net" - is the same sort of or similar censoring as was alleged against Wikileaks in Germany, when it turned out the problem lay with the holder of the domain name?
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Peter Dambier <peter at peter-dambier.de>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 6:16:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [governance] EU-elections german pirates party censored
> 
> Hi Ian,
> 
> the Swedish Pirate Party has spread all over europe. The German Pirates Party
> is one of them. When enough pirates from other european countries have made
> it to Bruxelles we are allowed to form a block. Right now we are glad one of
> us has made it.
> 
> The Pirate Bay was our first hoster and when they were banned was the first
> time the Pirates were banned too. Today, counting the members of the party
> the Pirates are number 3 in Sweden and the Pirates Youth Organisation is
> the biggest Youth Organisation in Sweden and the Queen pays many visits to
> them.
> 
> In Germany our youth have founded an organisation right now and their
> number are growing very fast.
> 
> In copyright we think very much like the french inventor
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Marie_Jacquard
> 
> who invented the loom mechanism controlled by punched card.
> That machine was almost a computer.
> 
> Jacquard gave his invention to the french people for free. That was the
> first time of Public Domain I guess. In return the french government
> gave him an old age pension so his invention was not in vain.
> 
> Today Copyright Law is a mess. The French Revolution probably would not
> have happend today.
> 
> In the beginning computer programmes have been free too. Without that
> windows would not even exist. That is why we need a reform of Copyright
> Law.
> 
> Censoring one of our sites was a misshap. But misshaps do happen and that
> is why we don't want censoring in the first place.
> 
> If only people had been talking to each other but that is exactly what
> censoring is about.
> 
> Lives of people do depend on Open Access today. It is not ok to let them
> die just for profit. That is why we need to reform the copyright into a
> right of copy :)
> 
> Copying music with a computer that has a copyright tax on it to a cd that
> has a copyright tax on it and the tax is payed to the music industry already
> but the music industry insists that copy is prohibited - that is only one
> side of the coin.
> 
> The other side is people starving because the genes of the pig are
> copyrighted.
> 
> By the way I know of artists "starving" because the tax is payed to the
> copyright industry and not to the artists.
> 
> Kind regards
> Peter
> 
> Ian Peter wrote:
>> According to media reports the Pirate Party has won one or two seats in EU?
>>
>> http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-wins-and-enters-the-european-parliament
>> -090607/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> According to Wikipedia, The Pirate Party (Swedish: Piratpartiet) is a
>> political party in Sweden. It strives to reform laws regarding copyright and
>> patents. The agenda also includes support for a strengthening of the right
>> to privacy, both on the Internet and in everyday life, and the transparency
>> of state administration.
>>
>> Its formation appears to have something to do with the banning of file
>> sharing site, Pirate Bay?
>>
>> This appears to be some sort of first for internet and governance?
>> Interested in reports from those who know more.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/06/09 8:21 AM, "Peter Dambier" <peter at peter-dambier.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> right during the eu-elections the website
>>>
>>> piratenpartei.net
>>>
>>> of the german pirates party gets censored by their
>>> hoster alfahosting.info.
>>>
>>> Interestingly enough that website is unreachable too.
>>> Afraid of emails I guess.
>>>
>>> Have a nice weekend
>>> Peter
>>
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