[governance] EU-elections german pirates party censored

David Goldstein goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au
Mon Jun 8 09:58:10 EDT 2009


Sorry, I can't support a political party such as The Pirate Party that has its origins in "extreme rightwing politics" through the money man, Carl Lundström. Then there's "Gottfrid Svartholm Varg and Frederik Neij, the nerds who run The Pirate
Bay itself, have also been accused by the prosecutor of tax evasion."

See the rest of this unsavoury tale at http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/feb/26/read-me-first-pirate-bay.

So are all these people involved in The Pirate Party?

By the way, this so-called "censoring" of "piratenpartei.net" - is the same sort of or similar censoring as was alleged against Wikileaks in Germany, when it turned out the problem lay with the holder of the domain name?

David





----- Original Message ----
From: Peter Dambier <peter at peter-dambier.de>
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Sent: Monday, 8 June, 2009 6:16:37 PM
Subject: Re: [governance] EU-elections german pirates party censored

Hi Ian,

the Swedish Pirate Party has spread all over europe. The German Pirates Party
is one of them. When enough pirates from other european countries have made
it to Bruxelles we are allowed to form a block. Right now we are glad one of
us has made it.

The Pirate Bay was our first hoster and when they were banned was the first
time the Pirates were banned too. Today, counting the members of the party
the Pirates are number 3 in Sweden and the Pirates Youth Organisation is
the biggest Youth Organisation in Sweden and the Queen pays many visits to
them.

In Germany our youth have founded an organisation right now and their
number are growing very fast.

In copyright we think very much like the french inventor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Marie_Jacquard

who invented the loom mechanism controlled by punched card.
That machine was almost a computer.

Jacquard gave his invention to the french people for free. That was the
first time of Public Domain I guess. In return the french government
gave him an old age pension so his invention was not in vain.

Today Copyright Law is a mess. The French Revolution probably would not
have happend today.

In the beginning computer programmes have been free too. Without that
windows would not even exist. That is why we need a reform of Copyright
Law.

Censoring one of our sites was a misshap. But misshaps do happen and that
is why we don't want censoring in the first place.

If only people had been talking to each other but that is exactly what
censoring is about.

Lives of people do depend on Open Access today. It is not ok to let them
die just for profit. That is why we need to reform the copyright into a
right of copy :)

Copying music with a computer that has a copyright tax on it to a cd that
has a copyright tax on it and the tax is payed to the music industry already
but the music industry insists that copy is prohibited - that is only one
side of the coin.

The other side is people starving because the genes of the pig are
copyrighted.

By the way I know of artists "starving" because the tax is payed to the
copyright industry and not to the artists.

Kind regards
Peter

Ian Peter wrote:
> According to media reports the Pirate Party has won one or two seats in EU?
> 
> http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-party-wins-and-enters-the-european-parliament
> -090607/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> According to Wikipedia, The Pirate Party (Swedish: Piratpartiet) is a
> political party in Sweden. It strives to reform laws regarding copyright and
> patents. The agenda also includes support for a strengthening of the right
> to privacy, both on the Internet and in everyday life, and the transparency
> of state administration.
> 
> Its formation appears to have something to do with the banning of file
> sharing site, Pirate Bay?
> 
> This appears to be some sort of first for internet and governance?
> Interested in reports from those who know more.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/06/09 8:21 AM, "Peter Dambier" <peter at peter-dambier.de> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>>
>> right during the eu-elections the website
>>
>> piratenpartei.net
>>
>> of the german pirates party gets censored by their
>> hoster alfahosting.info.
>>
>> Interestingly enough that website is unreachable too.
>> Afraid of emails I guess.
>>
>> Have a nice weekend
>> Peter
> 
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