[governance] Question 6: Comments on Siva's proposed paras

[Michael Gurstein]

Hi,

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From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy [mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 6:18 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein
Subject: Re: [governance] Question 6: Comments on Siva's proposed paras


Hello Michael Gurstein,


On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>
wrote:





"The Internet Governance Caucus calls upon the IGF Secretariat to fund the
IGF programs and participation substantially and significantly to further
enhance the quality of programs with greater diversity of participation"
sounds better?  

 YES... 



There are two aspects to be considered in this regard: a) The absence or
non-participation of some of the world's most renowned Civil Society opinion
leaders is noticeable; Business Leaders who are otherwise committed to
social and other governance issues off IGF are not seen at the IGF;
Governments are not represented on a level high enough

HMMM. WHO/WHAT EXACTLY IS MEANT BY "RENOWNED CIVIL SOCIETY OPINION LEADERS"
(IN SOME CIRCLES THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO AND PROBABLY MORE INTERNAL
CONTRADITIONS IN THAT SIMPLE STATEMENT AND CERTAINLY NEITHER WE NOR THE
SECRETARIAT SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO IDENTIFY WHO THESE "RENOWNED" FOLKS MIGHT
BE.

AS WELL, ARE WE LOOKING FOR CIVIL SOCIETY "LEADERS" OR FOLKS FROM CIVIL
SOCIETY ORGANIZATIONS IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, OR ARE WE LOOKING FOR CIVIL
SOCIETY SPOKESPEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND IG ISSUES, OR ARE WE LOOKING FOR LEADERS
OF RESPONSIBLE REPRESENTATIVE CS ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE A
POSITION//OPINION/KNOWLEDGE ON IG ISSUES (EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES IS
PROBABLY DISCREET AND COULD BE INCLUDED AMBIGUOUSLY UNDER YOUR STATEMENT.

IF BIZ LEADERS THINK IT IS OF SUFFICIENT IMPORTANCE THEY'LL LIKELY COME, IF
NOT, NOT AND NOT MUCH WE OR THE SECRETARIAT CAN DO ABOUT THAT AND SIMILARLY
WITH GOVERNMENTS.

I THINK THIS PARA SHOULD BE DROPPED...


I am sorry, I don't agree with your negative interpretation of such a
positive suggestion. Are we to assert that the present participants
constitute a complete, representative, and ultimate group ?  
 
NO, BUT I'M HAVING TROUBLE SEEING WHAT NAOMI KLEIN OR VENDANA SHIVA WOULD
HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE EITHER...
 
HAVING THE HEAD OF SEWA OR K-NET WOULD SEEM TO ME TO BE RATHER MORE USEFUL,
"RENOWNED" OR NOT, AS THEY AT LEAST COULD TALK WITH SOME DIRECT KNOWLEDGE
ABOUT HOW IG ISSUES IMPACT THEM AND THE KINDS OF THINGS THEY ARE TRYING TO
DO ON THE GROUND.
 
MBG
 

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
 



  
M

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