[governance] Question 6: Comments on Siva's proposed paras

[Sivasubramanian Muthusamy]

Hello Michael Gurstein,

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 2:50 AM, Michael Gurstein <gurstein at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> I may have lost the thread here so apologies in advance if this section has
> already been revised but here below is Siva's first suggested para with
> some
> interspersed comments.
>
> The Internet Governance Caucus calls upon the IGF Secretariat to fund the
> IGF programs and participation substantially and significantly better to
> improve the quality and diversity of participation.
>
> I THINK THIS IS RATHER INSULTING TO THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING AND
> THE ISSUE OF "quality" OF PARTICIPATION SHOULD BE DROPPED.
>

It is not at all implied that the quality of participation is absent.
Quality of participation is referred to here as a quest for constant
improvement, further improvement,

I am a participant, am I insulting me ?

"The Internet Governance Caucus calls upon the IGF Secretariat to fund the
IGF programs and participation substantially and significantly to further
enhance the quality of programs with greater diversity of participation"
sounds better?


>
> There are two aspects to be considered in this regard: a) The absence or
> non-participation of some of the world's most renowned Civil Society
> opinion
> leaders is noticeable; Business Leaders who are otherwise committed to
> social and other governance issues off IGF are not seen at the IGF;
> Governments are not represented on a level high enough
>
> HMMM. WHO/WHAT EXACTLY IS MEANT BY "RENOWNED CIVIL SOCIETY OPINION LEADERS"
> (IN SOME CIRCLES THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO AND PROBABLY MORE INTERNAL
> CONTRADITIONS IN THAT SIMPLE STATEMENT AND CERTAINLY NEITHER WE NOR THE
> SECRETARIAT SHOULD BE EXPECTED TO IDENTIFY WHO THESE "RENOWNED" FOLKS MIGHT
> BE.
>
> AS WELL, ARE WE LOOKING FOR CIVIL SOCIETY "LEADERS" OR FOLKS FROM CIVIL
> SOCIETY ORGANIZATIONS IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, OR ARE WE LOOKING FOR CIVIL
> SOCIETY SPOKESPEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND IG ISSUES, OR ARE WE LOOKING FOR
> LEADERS
> OF RESPONSIBLE REPRESENTATIVE CS ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE A
> POSITION//OPINION/KNOWLEDGE ON IG ISSUES (EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES IS
> PROBABLY DISCREET AND COULD BE INCLUDED AMBIGUOUSLY UNDER YOUR STATEMENT.
>
> IF BIZ LEADERS THINK IT IS OF SUFFICIENT IMPORTANCE THEY'LL LIKELY COME, IF
> NOT, NOT AND NOT MUCH WE OR THE SECRETARIAT CAN DO ABOUT THAT AND SIMILARLY
> WITH GOVERNMENTS.
>
> I THINK THIS PARA SHOULD BE DROPPED...


I am sorry, I don't agree with your negative interpretation of such a
positive suggestion. Are we to assert that the present participants
constitute a complete, representative, and ultimate group ?

Sivasubramanian Muthusamy


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