[governance] Of Interest: Congestion Management FAQ from Cox

[Stuart Hamilton]

Dear Colleagues

I thought this was interesting in light of recent discussions on congestion management etc.

New Google Tools Determine if Your ISP Is Blocking BitTorrent
http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/01/new-google-tool.html

[SNIP]: "It's interesting to see Google stepping up into the role of a proactive net-neutrality watchdog."

Stuart

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Wilkinson [mailto:Christopher.wilkinson at skynet.be] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2009 10:21 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter
Cc: 'Ralf Bendrath'
Subject: Re: [governance] Of Interest: Congestion Management FAQ from Cox

Well, nowadays, it would seem to me that there is a difference of scale 
and a difference of degree.

If one bloke once picked another´s apple years and years ago, it doesn't 
mean that the whole trade in apples can now be regulated by the shipping 
companies.

Just a thought,

CW

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Ian Peter wrote:
> Interestingly in this context, the Internet History mailing list is
> currently alive with confessions of network engineers who moved beyond best
> effort networking from 1985 onwards to deal with growing volumes of telnet
> traffic.
>
> Traffic shaping and packet preference has been with us from two years after
> the introduction of TCP/IP. One example follows
>
>
>
> Ian Peter
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> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:17:21 +0000
> From: David Mills <mills at udel.edu>
> Subject: Re: [ih] Secret precedence schemes back then
> To: internet-history at postel.org
> Message-ID: <497F3391.2000702 at udel.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
>
> Mathias,
>
> Busted after all these years. In the bad old NSFnet days the interactive
> customers were being crushed by other traffic, so I modifed the scheduling
> algorithm to implement a classic precedence scheme using the IP header TOS
> field. Then, I changed NTP to use the highest priority and telnet to use the
> next highest. Steve Wolff and I agreed to do thes as an emergency measure
> and to keep it a secret ftom the Cornell operators. 
> I never told anybody and I don't think Steve did either, so somebody else
> figured it out. If you look closely at my SIGCOMM paper you can probably
> figure it out, too.
>
> 23 years after the crime, it is past the statute of limitations.
>
>
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ralf Bendrath [mailto:bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de]
>> Sent: 29 January 2009 00:05
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Of Interest: Congestion Management FAQ from Cox
>>
>> Ginger Paque schrieb:
>>     
>>> This transparency is a positive step peripheral to the NN debate:
>>>       
>> It goes right to the heart, actually. While this transparency is nice, and
>> their approach to bandwidth management sounds very well-intended, this
>> announcement also means that Cox will look into the traffic of each
>> customer to determine which application is using the TCP stack ("deep
>> packet inspection" is the technical term). You could consider this a
>> breach of telecommunications privacy. At least it is a big step away from
>> the classic bit-mover and best-effort internet model.
>>
>> Good read on this:
>> The Rise and Fall of Invasive ISP Surveillance
>> Paul Ohm, University of Colorado Law School
>> U of Colorado Law Legal Studies Research Paper No. 08-22
>> University of Illinois Law Review, 2009
>> <http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1261344>
>>
>> Ralf
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