[governance] Of Interest: Congestion Management FAQ from Cox

Christopher Wilkinson Christopher.wilkinson at skynet.be
Wed Jan 28 16:21:18 EST 2009


Well, nowadays, it would seem to me that there is a difference of scale 
and a difference of degree.

If one bloke once picked anotherĀ“s apple years and years ago, it doesn't 
mean that the whole trade in apples can now be regulated by the shipping 
companies.

Just a thought,

CW

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Ian Peter wrote:
> Interestingly in this context, the Internet History mailing list is
> currently alive with confessions of network engineers who moved beyond best
> effort networking from 1985 onwards to deal with growing volumes of telnet
> traffic.
>
> Traffic shaping and packet preference has been with us from two years after
> the introduction of TCP/IP. One example follows
>
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:17:21 +0000
> From: David Mills <mills at udel.edu>
> Subject: Re: [ih] Secret precedence schemes back then
> To: internet-history at postel.org
> Message-ID: <497F3391.2000702 at udel.edu>
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> Mathias,
>
> Busted after all these years. In the bad old NSFnet days the interactive
> customers were being crushed by other traffic, so I modifed the scheduling
> algorithm to implement a classic precedence scheme using the IP header TOS
> field. Then, I changed NTP to use the highest priority and telnet to use the
> next highest. Steve Wolff and I agreed to do thes as an emergency measure
> and to keep it a secret ftom the Cornell operators. 
> I never told anybody and I don't think Steve did either, so somebody else
> figured it out. If you look closely at my SIGCOMM paper you can probably
> figure it out, too.
>
> 23 years after the crime, it is past the statute of limitations.
>
>
>  
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ralf Bendrath [mailto:bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de]
>> Sent: 29 January 2009 00:05
>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Of Interest: Congestion Management FAQ from Cox
>>
>> Ginger Paque schrieb:
>>     
>>> This transparency is a positive step peripheral to the NN debate:
>>>       
>> It goes right to the heart, actually. While this transparency is nice, and
>> their approach to bandwidth management sounds very well-intended, this
>> announcement also means that Cox will look into the traffic of each
>> customer to determine which application is using the TCP stack ("deep
>> packet inspection" is the technical term). You could consider this a
>> breach of telecommunications privacy. At least it is a big step away from
>> the classic bit-mover and best-effort internet model.
>>
>> Good read on this:
>> The Rise and Fall of Invasive ISP Surveillance
>> Paul Ohm, University of Colorado Law School
>> U of Colorado Law Legal Studies Research Paper No. 08-22
>> University of Illinois Law Review, 2009
>> <http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1261344>
>>
>> Ralf
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