AW: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID
Carlos A. Afonso
ca at cafonso.ca
Mon Dec 28 11:52:27 EST 2009
I agree, Wolf.
--c.a.
Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
> Be careful in mixing IGF/MAG and ICT4D/GAID. This are two different shoes walking in different directions. ICT4D/GAID can learn something from IGF/MAG and we can the positive IGF/MAG experiences as a source of inspiration for the reform of ICT4D/GAID towards multistakeholderism. But do not try to put the two processes under one umbrella. This seems risky even if some groups think this is a good idea.
>
> Wolfgang
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> Von: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca]
> Gesendet: Mo 28.12.2009 14:13
> An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Jean-Louis FULLSACK
> Cc: Vanda UOL; Kleinwächter, Wolfgang; 'Tim Unwin'; 'George Sadowsky'; 'Michael Gurstein'; tt-group at vancouvercommunity.net
> Betreff: Re: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID
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> One of the hurdles of building this "G12" (for one, it should probably
> be called "GXY" for now) is the regional distribution in representation.
> I think it raises a lot of problems bundling together Mexico with the
> USA in the "North America" representation -- and where do you fit the
> Caribbean? So each region has its particularities and this group, if it
> really is to go ahead, needs a lot of careful debate to arrive at
> something which is not "defective by design" or just worthless. I think
> Reding needs to mingle a bit more with the people in the different
> regions before suggesting structures like this.
>
> Also, not sure if including Icann would not require including other
> international entities closely related to one or more central items of
> IG, which I think are at least as relevant as Icann's.
>
> --c.a.
>
> Jean-Louis FULLSACK wrote:
>> Just a gag : why not consider the "G12" proposed by Mrs Reding in May ?
>>
>> You don't rermember that ? Here it is summarized :
>>
>> Create a "G12 for in Internet governance" which should be convened three
>> times a year
>> Composition :
>> The president of ICANN
>> 2 represntatives of Europe
>> 2 represntatives of Africa
>> 2 representatives of North America
>> 2 representatives of South America
>> 3 representatives of Asia and Pacific region
>> This "G12" should debat on general orientations for the Internet and
>> should -when necessary (sic)- formulate recommendations agreed on by the
>> majority of its members to the attention of ICANN.
>> End of the proposal.
>>
>> Isn't it a marvelous team ? Mrs Reding was unfortunately replaced as the
>> ICT-IS Commissioner in Barroso 2 Commission. What a pity ! Will her
>> successor, Mrs Kroes, be as prolofic for such folkloric suggestions ?
>> BTW : Multistaholderism is likely to be ignored by the EC ...
>>
>> Best
>> Jean-Louis Fullsack
>>
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>> > Message du 27/12/09 14:48
>> > De : "Vanda UOL"
>> > A : governance at lists.cpsr.org, "'"Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"'" ,
>> "'Tim Unwin'" , "'George Sadowsky'" , "'Michael Gurstein'" ,
>> tt-group at vancouvercommunity.net
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>> > Objet : RE: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID
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>> Hi Wolfgang,
>>
>> Hope too much snow haven't compromise your Christmas time! Around
>> here very hot! And no real results from Denmark meeting!
>>
>> I do believe we need to work to "multistakeholderised" the WISIS
>> forum. For me this is high priority!. Mag could take a lead to
>> organize this, I agree. 2010 we might have an appropriate "half
>> time" document to mark the effort already done and the goals to
>> achieve till 2015.
>>
>> Great 2010 for all of you!
>>
>> Best
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> > From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
>> [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:54 AM
>> > To: Tim Unwin; George Sadowsky; Michael Gurstein;
>> tt-group at vancouvercommunity.net
>> > Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>> > Subject: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID
>>
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>>
>> Dear list
>>
>>
>>
>> one opportunity to have a more strategic brainstorming around a
>> reasonable Follow up of GAID could be the IGF consultations in
>> February in Geneva. I propose to have on Wednesday, February, 10,
>> 2010, over lunch (1315 - 1500) a meeting of people present in
>> Geneva. We had a similar meeting last year (in the ITU Montbrillant
>> Building) where we identified an "identity crisis of GAID" with no
>> consequences after the meeting. The meeting was chaired by Bill and
>> Sarbulan was online from NY.
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>> Any proposal?
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>>
>> BTW I could imagine to move the "WSIS Forum", which is emerging from
>> the annual meetings of the Actions Lines, into something which could
>> absorb previous UNICTTF/GAID activities. My impression is that so
>> far the "WSIS Forum" is mainly in the hand of the ITU and other
>> IGOs, having the lead position in the Action Lines. The WSIS Forum
>> could be further "multistakeholderised" and the responsibility to
>> organoze the meeting - convened by the UN/ITU/UNESCO/FAO/ILO - could
>> go to a MAG like group. Do not forget that 2010 makrs half way
>> towards 2015m the dateline for the Geneva and Tunis Commitments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wolfgang
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