[governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID

[Parminder]

Avri Doria wrote:
> hi,
>
> does the TT list have an open archive?
>
> Re; the G12 (and even the GXY variant)  suggestion - great idea if and only if we wish to vest Internet  supremacy in the hands of governments to the exclusion of civil society, the Internet technical community and the private sector.  
>
> Then again they may be nice enough to let us have a liaison in the room who can, if she/he asks politely and submits it to vetting, make a statement at the end of the deliberations.
>
> a.
>   

Avri

While completely appreciating your concerns I will restate some 
questions I have repeatedly raised on this list. Do we basically lack 
belief in global policies (polity) of any kind or just in global 
policies made exclusively by intergovernmental forums without due 
participation by civil society in the spirit of what has come to be 
known as 'deepening democracy'?

If it is the former, I consider lack of belief in political systems as 
legitimizing  the rule of the powerful over the weaker sections, and is 
thus an unacceptable position.

If the later, it surprises me no end that why does civil society engaged 
in IG arena never provide or even support possible alternatives of more 
democratic governance/ policy options? I have repeatedly spoken of 
alternatives developed by WGIG (other than the alternative 2 which was 
basically status quo and which does not really address the policy 
vacuums) as a possible starting point, but found no response. Perhaps 
even more surprising is the fact that any effort to propose any policy 
role, even an advisory one, for the IGF, the only really 
multi-stakeholder global policy forum, is met with similar resistance by 
those who resist other policy options.

What exactly is to be made of this? Do we really not need any global 
policies in an increasingly globalised world, most so in regard to 
Internet related issues - which keep becoming bigger and more pervasive? 
If we need them, who should make them? And what are the transitional 
mechanisms towards these ideal propositions? 'No policies' is a 
generally recognized position of the already dominant, while the weaker 
sections always look for political systems or policies to intervene on 
their behalf.

I also consider this debate relevant to the question of the role and 
structure of IGF which we are discussing on this list.

Parminder


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