[governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID

Mon Dec 28 10:24:06 EST 2009

Things have gone a wee bit awry here I think, with crosspostings without
enough background...

To clarify a bit--a second e-list (tt-group... sorry can't remember right
now why that particular name) was established almost 18 months ago from
within those formally involved in the governance structure of the Global
Alliance for ICT for Development (UN-GAID)  <http://www.un-gaid.org/>
www.un-gaid.org/  who were critical of the way in which the GAID was
operating and to suggest alternatives. (There is a substantial
cross-membership between the governance list and the tt-group list).

The tt-group list produced a letter which was formally transmitted to the
leaders and sponsors of the GAID to little visible effect. Recently, the
tt-group elist was brought out of hibernation and is currently discussing if
or how to react to retirement of the current ED of the GAID (Sarbuland Khan)
and what appears to be a move to "mainstream" (i.e. in UN speak merge and
then "disappear") the GAID as an independent UN structure.

I think it is fair to say that the folks on the TT-group list (who are
linked by all having a serious interest in post-WSIS ICT4D policy at the
global and bi-lateral institutional level) do NOT see a convergence between
the current issues of the IGF and ICT4D activities or policies.

So it is likely to be rather more efficient and effective if the discussions
on the two lists are kept relatively separate.

However, it is likely a further consensus that the discussions (and
participants) on the TT-group list should expand much beyond a focus on the
GAID so anyone on the "governance" list who has an interest in the
tt-group's discussion could subscribe by sending an email 

to: sympa at vancouvercommunity.net

message: subscribe tt-group

(or sending me an email and I'll sub you directly.

Best to all,

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Jean-Louis FULLSACK [mailto:jlfullsack at orange.fr] 
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:00 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Vanda UOL; '"Kleinwächter Wolfgang"'; 'Tim
Unwin'; 'George Sadowsky'; 'Michael Gurstein';
tt-group at vancouvercommunity.net
Subject: RE: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID

Just a gag : why not consider the "G12" proposed by Mrs Reding in May ?

You don't rermember that ? Here it is summarized :

Create a "G12 for in Internet governance" which should be convened three
times a year 
Composition :
The president of ICANN
2 represntatives of Europe
2 represntatives of Africa
2 representatives of North America
2 representatives of South America
3 representatives of Asia and Pacific region
This "G12" should debat on general orientations for the Internet and should
-when necessary (sic)- formulate recommendations agreed on by the majority
of its members to the attention of ICANN. 
End of the proposal.

Isn't it a marvelous team ? Mrs Reding was unfortunately replaced as the
ICT-IS Commissioner in Barroso 2 Commission. What a pity ! Will her
successor, Mrs Kroes, be as prolofic for such folkloric suggestions ? 
BTW : Multistaholderism is likely to be ignored by the EC ...

Best
Jean-Louis Fullsack

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Hi Wolfgang,

 Hope too much snow haven't compromise your Christmas time! Around here very
hot! And no real results from Denmark meeting! 

 I do believe we need to work to "multistakeholderised" the WISIS forum. For
me this is high priority!. Mag could take a lead to organize this, I agree.
2010 we might have an appropriate "half time" document to mark the effort
already done and the goals to achieve till 2015.

Great 2010 for all of you!

 Best

Vanda Scartezini

Polo Consultores Associados

Alameda Santos 1470 #1407

Tel - +55.11.3266.6253

Mob- +55.11.8181.1464

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-----Original Message-----
> From: "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
[mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:54 AM
> To: Tim Unwin; George Sadowsky; Michael Gurstein;
tt-group at vancouvercommunity.net
> Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: [governance] AW: [tt-group] FW: GAID

Dear list

one opportunity to have a more strategic brainstorming around a reasonable
Follow up of GAID could be the IGF consultations in February in Geneva. I
propose to have on Wednesday, February, 10, 2010, over lunch (1315 - 1500) a
meeting of people present in Geneva. We had a similar meeting last year (in
the ITU Montbrillant Building) where we identified an "identity crisis of
GAID" with no consequences after the meeting. The meeting was chaired by
Bill and Sarbulan was online from NY. 

Any proposal?   

BTW I could imagine to move the "WSIS Forum", which is emerging from the
annual meetings of the Actions Lines, into something which could absorb
previous UNICTTF/GAID activities. My impression is that so far the "WSIS
Forum" is mainly in the hand of the ITU and other IGOs, having the lead
position in the Action Lines. The WSIS Forum could be further
"multistakeholderised" and the responsibility to organoze the meeting -
convened by the UN/ITU/UNESCO/FAO/ILO - could go to a MAG like group. Do not
forget that 2010 makrs half way towards 2015m the dateline for the Geneva
and Tunis Commitments.

Wolfgang  

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