Offlist Re: [governance] Rules decide Membership not existing Members

[Eric Dierker]

This is what it is all about.  The results will not be perfect but the "public" input and rising debate is essential.  Scuze' Moi, I am all tingly with good feelings.  Some may like a good fut ball match while others love to make money,,,,  Me I like a good governance structure in the making and democracy beginning to take root.  "Freedom of Speech don't mean crap if it ain't exercised"  I wish I could vote just so I could hold up my blue finger and dance to freedoms great tune!!  But as we can see it is OK if I cannot vote as long as my position is heard, as long as I have the right -- gauranteeeed to partake and meet my responsibilities.
 
Pardon me, back to rabble rousing.

--- On Tue, 8/25/09, Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Ginger Paque <gpaque at gmail.com>
Subject: Offlist Re: [governance] Rules decide Membership not existing Members
To: "Fearghas McKay" <fm-lists at st-kilda.org>, "'governance at lists.cpsr.org'" <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:52 AM


Hi Fearghas and all,

This is the first time all of this has come up, because it is the first charter amendment vote, so the charter rules were never tested in a practical situation. We are working on a clarification, precisely for the reasons you and others have stated very clearly here.

Thanks for your input and patience. 

Best, Ginger

Fearghas McKay wrote: 

On 25 Aug 2009, at 10:22, Roland Perry wrote: 


That's what Capture is about, and any sensible entity will have anti-capture rules. 

My concern about the capture rules which are fine in principle is the the fact that you may not be able to vote on charter changes for a random period of time ranging from just over 2 months to 14 months. 

If it was fixed in the middle, say 6-8 months on the list, that would be understandable but I don't see why such a wide ranging period of time is acceptable. 

Perhaps for future charter changes an addition should  be made to this change setting a fixed time period as happens with voting for coordinators, I would suggest 6 months bit since I am voteless I will leave it to others to propose a timescale to protect the charter from "drive by" abuse. 

Regards 

    Fearghas 
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