<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>This is what it is all about. The results will not be perfect but the "public" input and rising debate is essential. Scuze' Moi, I am all tingly with good feelings. Some may like a good fut ball match while others love to make money,,,, Me I like a good governance structure in the making and democracy beginning to take root. "Freedom of Speech don't mean crap if it ain't exercised" I wish I could vote just so I could hold up my blue finger and dance to freedoms great tune!! But as we can see it is OK if I cannot vote as long as my position is heard, as long as I have the right -- gauranteeeed to partake and meet my responsibilities.</DIV>
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<DIV>Pardon me, back to rabble rousing.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Tue, 8/25/09, Ginger <SPAN>Paque</SPAN> <I><gpaque@gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Ginger Paque <gpaque@gmail.com><BR>Subject: Offlist Re: [governance] Rules decide Membership not existing Members<BR>To: "Fearghas McKay" <fm-lists@st-kilda.org>, "'governance@lists.cpsr.org'" <governance@lists.cpsr.org><BR>Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 11:52 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv1586145096><FONT face=Arial>Hi Fearghas and all,<BR><BR>This is the first time all of this has come up, because it is the first charter amendment vote, so the charter rules were never tested in a practical situation. We are working on a clarification, precisely for the reasons you and others have stated very clearly here.<BR><BR>Thanks for your input and patience. <BR><BR>Best, Ginger<BR></FONT><BR>Fearghas McKay wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><BR>On 25 Aug 2009, at 10:22, Roland Perry wrote: <BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">That's what Capture is about, and any sensible entity will have anti-capture rules. <BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>My concern about the capture rules which are fine in principle is the the fact that you may not be able to vote on charter changes for a random period of time ranging from just over 2 months to 14 months. <BR><BR>If it was fixed in the middle, say 6-8 months on the list, that would be understandable but I don't see why such a wide ranging period of time is acceptable. <BR><BR>Perhaps for future charter changes an addition should be made to this change setting a fixed time period as happens with voting for coordinators, I would suggest 6 months bit since I am voteless I will leave it to others to propose a timescale to protect the charter from "drive by" abuse. <BR><BR>Regards <BR><BR> Fearghas <BR>____________________________________________________________ <BR>You received this message as a
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