AW: [governance] hearing on Internet Governance arrangements

Christopher Wilkinson christopher.wilkinson at skynet.be
Thu Apr 30 06:34:50 EDT 2009


No problem. Let us leave it at that.

Best regards to you all,

CW


On 30 Apr 2009, at 12:22, Jeanette Hofmann wrote:

> Hi, in case I caused a misunderstanding I'd like to point out that  
> the Commission did not invite the caucus per so to present a  
> statement. I was told that I could suggest someone else in place of  
> me. This is why suggested that a member of the caucus might want to  
> go. Independently of that, I also asked if the caucus wants to  
> submit a statement. If we have no statement, we, or more precisely  
> one of us, can still make use of the empty seat.
>
> jeanette
>
> Kleinwächter, Wolfgang wrote:
>> My understanding from the EU meeting is that this is more a  
>> "brainstorming" than a formal hearing where people present  
>> "positions". There will be several people from the Caucus on the  
>> table. I do not see a need at this point to present a formal IGC  
>> statement, but it would be good if the various IGC members  
>> participate actively in the brainstorming also by making clear that  
>> they are linked to the IGC, which would be good to show other  
>> stakeholders, that the IGC is a active stakeholder, has good ideas  
>> and good people. I will be there, will speak as an individual  
>> expert but will make clear that CS and the IGC should be adequatly  
>> (in its respectuive role) in the future activities.
>> Wolfgang
>>   ________________________________
>> Von: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>> Gesendet: Do 30.04.2009 11:54
>> An: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter
>> Cc: Christopher Wilkinson; Jeanette Hofmann
>> Betreff: Re: [governance] hearing on Internet Governance  
>> arrangements in
>> Ian and Ginger,
>> Will due respect and thankfulness to Christopher's kind offer I am  
>> unable to clearly understand what would representing IGC at this  
>> meeting mean? I therefore request further clarity on this. The  
>> questions posed by EU are all very important issues with deep  
>> implications for the IG arena. I am not sure (1) if IGC has formed  
>> relatively clear and expressable views on these issues, and (2)  
>> even if it has done so in its earlier statements, how these views  
>> will be read and communicated. It is my view that IGC being  
>> represented by Christopher, who presumably has been  invited  in  
>> his capacity as the chair of ISOC-EU, will create some amount of  
>> confusion, without gaining anything substantial. It is important to  
>> note in this regard that OECD (and presumably EU, which consists of  
>> countries that are an important part of OECD) see ISOC chiefly to  
>> be from the technical community constituency, and recently it has  
>> created separate technical community and civil society  
>> constituencies in relation to its information society activities.  
>> IGC is of course seen to be from the civil society constituency.  
>> While I agree that ISOC has important CS aspects, we are working  
>> within a somewhat well established nomenclature/ categorization in  
>> this space and it is in our best interest to respect that for the  
>> present purpose. I would however very much like it if Christopher  
>> as an active IGC member can share information with us on what  
>> transpires at the meeting. Parminder Ian Peter wrote: 	I've  
>> discussed with Ginger and unless there are strong objections we
>> 	recommend that we take up Christopher's offer to represent IGC at  
>> this
>> 	event.
>> 	
>> 	As regards a statement - current statements are all on line at
>> 	www.igcaucus.org <http://www.igcaucus.org/>  (there is a page  
>> dedicated to these). That's probably a
>> 	good starting point.
>> 	
>> 	
>> 	
>> 	On 28/04/09 10:34 PM, "Christopher Wilkinson"
>> 	<christopher.wilkinson at skynet.be> <mailto:christopher.wilkinson at skynet.be 
>> >  wrote:
>> 	
>> 	  		Well, Jeanette, I don't know who has been invited ...
>> 		
>> 		I think that what I have had to say on behalf of ISOC-ECC is  
>> already on
>> 		the record, so if IGC so wishes, I could also speak to the points  
>> that
>> 		we might wish to make. I suggest that we follow your suggestion:  
>> (a)
>> 		edit appropriately an IGC statement and post it to the EC website  
>> - I
>> 		imagine that the original authors would like to do that (by  
>> tomorrow?),
>> 		and (b) prepare a few key points for a 5 minute (max) intervention.
>> 		Depending on who else is present, we could arrange on the spot who
>> 		actually speaks to these points.
>> 		
>> 		If IGC wishes to fill the available IGC place, OK.
>> 		
>> 		CW
>> 		
>> 		
>> 		
>> 		Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>> 		    			Hi Christopher,
>> 			
>> 			you are probably attending on an ISOC ticket?
>> 			I've been told there is one place left we can fill.
>> 			As usual, no funding available.
>> 			jeanette
>> 			
>> 			Christopher Wilkinson wrote:
>> 			      				Dear Jeanette:
>> 				
>> 				I plan to go to this event. ISOC-ECC has submitted our  
>> presentation
>> 				to the European Parliament Hearings on 15 April.2009, attached.
>> 				
>> 				Regards to you all,
>> 				
>> 				Christopher.
>> 				
>> 				----------------------------
>> 				
>> 				Jeanette Hofmann wrote:
>> 				        					Hi,
>> 					
>> 					the European Commission hosts a hearing on Internet Governance  
>> in
>> 					Brussels on May 6. It is a by invitation only event. I got an
>> 					invitation but cannot attend. Yesterday I was told that we,  
>> the IGC,
>> 					can send somebody else. Would anybody be able and willing to go?
>> 					
>> 					We are also invited to contribute a written statement on any  
>> of the
>> 					issues on the agenda. Since there is probably not enough time to
>> 					write and agree on a new statement, perhaps it would make  
>> sense to
>> 					contribute slightly amended version of one of our statements  
>> for the
>> 					IGF public consultations?
>> 					
>> 					The website for the meeting:
>> 					http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/policy/internet_gov/index_en.htm
>> 					
>> 					
>> 					
>> 					I post the agenda here because it seems to be missing on the  
>> website:
>> 					
>> 					Hearing on Internet Governance arrangements
>> 					6 May 2009, 10:00 ñ 17:15
>> 					Brussels ñ Charlemagne Building , Room DURI
>> 					
>> 					
>> 					09:30 Registration & coffee
>> 					10:00 Introduction by the Commission
>> 					10.30 WSIS
>> 					11.15 Security & stability
>> 					12.00 The role of governments
>> 					12.45 Round up morning discussion
>> 					13.00 Lunch
>> 					14.15 Accountability and legitimacy
>> 					15.00 Internationalisation of Internet Governance
>> 					15:45 Coffee break
>> 					16:00 Digital divide
>> 					16.45 Round up afternoon discussion
>> 					17:00 Concluding remarks
>> 					
>> 					***
>> 					Theme description
>> 					1. WSIS: Progress since WSIS- how far are we with the  
>> implementation
>> 					of WSIS principles? What are the new challenges, if any, since  
>> WSIS
>> 					that should be addressed?
>> 					2. Security & stability of the Internet remains a key EU  
>> priority.
>> 					What are the main threats/challenges? What should the EU be  
>> doing
>> 					about them in particular with a view to their international  
>> dimension?
>> 					3. The role of public authorities: How should public  
>> authorities, in
>> 					particular governments, respond to their responsibilities in  
>> view of
>> 					the importance of the Internet to our economies and societies?  
>> What
>> 					lessons, if any, should be learnt from the "financial  
>> crisis" (e.g.
>> 					should self-regulation for critical infrastructures and  
>> services be
>> 					more closely monitored by governments and relevant public
>> 					authorities)? To what extent are private sector leadership and
>> 					stronger governmental and public policy making complementary and
>> 					necessary components for the effective management of the  
>> Internet?
>> 					4. Accountability and legitimacy: To what extent are self- 
>> regulatory
>> 					governance bodies accountable to Internet users world-wide? What
>> 					problems, if any, are posed by the fact that many Internet  
>> users do
>> 					not participate, even indirectly, in the governance processes?  
>> Is it
>> 					necessary to make governance fora more accountable to the wider
>> 					international community and, if so, how?
>> 					5. Internationalisation of Internet Governance: Is it  
>> desirable or
>> 					necessary to ensure fair participation of actors in their  
>> respective
>> 					roles from all geographic regions in the future shaping of the
>> 					Internet and if so, how? How can situations be avoided where the
>> 					imposition of a particular legal system or jurisdiction might
>> 					disadvantage players from outside the jurisdiction concerned?
>> 					6. Digital divide: The future billions of users will come  
>> largely
>> 					from developing countries. Should the existing Internet  
>> governance
>> 					mechanisms be adapted to reflect this evolution and, if so, how?
>> 					Should the interests of those who donít yet have Internet  
>> access be
>> 					represented in the policy making processes and, if so, how?
>> 					
>> 					jeanette
>> 					
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