[Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of

[Garth Graham]

It might be consistent, not arrogant, to asset the vision statement  
in the IGC Charter.  In part, it states:

> The policies that shape the Internet impact not only the  
> development of the technologies themselves, but also the  
> realization of internationally agreed human rights, social equity  
> and INTERDEPENCE, cultural concerns, and both social and economic  
> development.
>

That suggests a better title might be: "Interdependencies and  
Internet Governance."

GG

On 21-Apr-09, at 3:31 PM, Garth Graham wrote:
>> If the principles are agreed, then why not begin with them?  How
>> about "Sustaining collaborative self-organization in Internet
>> Governance?"  Or maybe as per Vint Cerf, "Sustaining collaborative
>> ecologies in Internet Governance?"

On 21-Apr-09, at 4:58 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Because that assumes that everyone (including states and private  
> sector) agrees with us that collaborative self-organization is the  
> objective of I.G. I suspect that some states, at least, do not  
> agree. in other words the content of these workshops are not  
> dictated by CS, they are supposed to involve everyone. I'd like for  
> the WS proposal to establish a framework that allows us to advocate  
> that position, without arrogantly asserting that it is a view held  
> by all participants.
>
>> On 21-Apr-09, at 1:52 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>
>>> great points, Garth. Which is why I proposed "transnational" -- as
>>> in "transcending" the national. I don't see how that word
>> implies a
>>> closed and absolute system of political authority. But if you do
>>> think it does, what's the alternative?
>>>
>>> Milton Mueller
>>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>>> XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Internet Governance Project:
>>> http://internetgovernance.org
>>>
>>>> relationships.  All three of those words are hierarchical, and
>>>> therefore move  Internet governance out of the frying pan of first
>>>> principles about open relational choice and into the fire of closed
>>>> and absolute systems of political authority.  Political governance
>>>> that does not acknowledge a shift towards relational self-
>>>> organization as a different approach to governance is not
>>>> going to be
>>>> good Internet Governance.  To put that another way, does anybody
>>>> believe that "world" government can be "accountable political
>>>> governance?"
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