[Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of
Jeanette Hofmann
jeanette at wzb.eu
Tue Apr 21 04:02:22 EDT 2009
I support both workshop proposal and a replacing of internationalization
by transnationalization. Internationalization suggests replacing one
government by many governments. Transnationalization would include
non-state actors.
jeanette
Parminder wrote:
> I personally have no problem with putting it as Internationalisation/
> transnationalisation
>
> something like "
>
> *Internationalization/ transnationalisation of Internet Governance - The way forward from
> where we stand today *
>
> I know this is last minute, and it is entirely up to the co-coordinators to take this change or not. But since Milton replied to my formulation I thought I should state my response/ position on it.
>
> If not changed now, when we send the final formulation in May we can always do it this way.
>
> parminder
>
>
>
>
> Milton L Mueller wrote:
>> I support the basic idea of both Workshops. However, can we use a term other than "internationalization" to describe Workshop 1? To many, "internationalization" means "takeover by existing intergovernmental organizations. Do we mean "transnationalization" or globalization" instead?
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Graciela Selaimen [mailto:graciela at rits.org.br]
>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:05 AM
>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Parminder
>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation
>>> of
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I support the proposal of both workshops.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Graciela
>>>
>>> Parminder escreveu:
>>>
>>>> IGC-ers
>>>>
>>>> IGC has always taken lead in some key political issues at each IGF,
>>>> and it will be rather amiss if we do not do. Moreover, it will not be
>>>> the best outcome of all the energy and time we all devote here
>>>> voluntarily for some public interest causes we believe it.
>>>>
>>>> I therefore seek views and endorsements for the two workshops that i
>>>> think have a history in IGC's political engagements in global IG
>>>> forums, especially the IGF. I am trying to push this at this late hour
>>>> because I do believe ob both these subjects - Network Neutrality and
>>>> Internationalisation of IG - there is a strong support in the IGC,
>>>> which for some reasons have not clearly come out.
>>>>
>>>> So if you do want IGC to sponsor a workshop on these subjects pl
>>>> indicate so in the next 24 hours, after which I will request the
>>>> coordinators to take a call if enough support for these workshop has
>>>> been forthcoming. While the text of the two workshop, at this stage
>>>> of discussion, is posted below, we must remember that this is an
>>>> initial rough proposal stage, and the final text can be changed to a
>>>> considerable extent, within the overall stated subject framework,
>>>> later, which we can do over some discussions. On the other hand, if we
>>>> do not submit workshop proposals now they cannot be submitted ever for
>>>> the IGF 4.
>>>>
>>>> I am only picking up these two workshops to especially advocate for
>>>> them on my behalf within the IGC. Other workshop proposals that are
>>>> moving forward will of course keep doing so, and coordinators may take
>>>> a final decision tomorrow, though i ma not quite sure what the overall
>>>> plan is.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, parminder
>>>>
>>>> Workshop 1 -
>>>>
>>>> *Internationalization of Internet Governance - The way forward from
>>>> where we stand today *
>>>> The Internet's present governance structures grew out of certain
>>>> historical contexts, as well as some new socio-political realities
>>>> around the Internet. In the context of rapid changes that the
>>>> Internet has wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its
>>>> governance could not have been anticipated by anyone. One thing
>>>> however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a technical
>>>> artifact, requiring technical governance with regard to keeping it
>>>> running smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
>>>> participative, inclusive and accountable internationalization. It is
>>>> important to analyze the needs of evolution and internationalization
>>>> of IG from various standpoints and the direction in which we might
>>>> move from here.
>>>>
>>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
>>>> possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
>>>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think
>>>> should organize it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..
>>>>
>>>> It is important to analyze the needs of evolution and
>>>> internationalization of IG from various standpoints and the direction
>>>> in which we might move from here.
>>>>
>>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
>>>> possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
>>>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think
>>>> should organize it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop
>>>> *
>>>> Workshop 2*
>>>>
>>>> *Network Neutrality - Exploring a global consensus on principles*
>>>>
>>>> Concise description (up to 200 words)
>>>> There is an increasing recognition of the urgency to develop some kind
>>>> of NN principles in order to preserve the open and democratic nature
>>>> of the Internet, and safeguard the interest of Internet users and
>>>> others affected by it. This workshop will explore recent efforts to
>>>> articulate and agree on NN principles in Europe, Japan, the U.S. and
>>>> developing countries. While proceeding from numerous national
>>>> regulatory developments, it will try to assess the transnational
>>>> implications of various approaches to NN, especially vis a vis
>>>> developing countries who seem largely absent from NN debates.
>>>>
>>>> Relates to theme -
>>>> Openness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? or who do you think should
>>>> organize it?
>>>>
>>>> Internet Governance Project (IGP) is happy to play a support role in
>>>> organizing this. Others we would approach: Free Press (USA-based civil
>>>> society advocacy group); Consumer Council of Norway; ITforChange
>>>> (India-based civil society advocacy group), Japan Internet Providers
>>>> Association and Ministry of Communications. There are other specific
>>>> countries or examples that are involved in such negotiations over
>>>> principles that we don't know about yet but will learn about later. We
>>>> will seek out additional developing country commentators in particular.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Gurstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would support this Workshop.
>>>>>
>>>>> MBG
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:45 PM
>>>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Ian Peter'; 'Parminder'
>>>>> Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
>>>>>
>>> Internationalisation of
>>>
>>>>> At th is stage as we all seem to be occupied with other things I do not
>>>>> believe IGC can endorse this workshop (unless there is a flood of
>>>>>
>>> support in
>>>
>>>>> next 48 hours and no opposition. Parminder, I would encourage you to
>>>>>
>>> submit
>>>
>>>>> it in any case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>> PO Box 429
>>>>> Bangalow NSW 2479
>>>>> Australia
>>>>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
>>>>> www.ianpeter.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
>>>>>> Sent: 18 April 2009 05:12
>>>>>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder'
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
>>>>>> Internationalisation of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Parminder. Any more comments on this? I thinkwe need
>>>>>> expressions of support for the new wording from a few of
>>>>>> those who were not happy with the previous version if we are
>>>>>> to submit this as an IGC proposal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PO Box 429
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bangalow NSW 2479
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.ianpeter.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>>>>>> Sent: 18 April 2009 03:01
>>>>>> To: 'governance at lists.cpsr.org'; Ian Peter
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
>>>>>> Internationalisation of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am fine with this. Just a technical language related point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we mean IG and not the Internet to be internationalised.
>>>>>> Would therefore prefer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
>>>>>> just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
>>>>>> with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
>>>>>> socio-political phenomenon requiring participative, inclusive
>>>>>> and accountable internationalization."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to be changed to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
>>>>>> just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
>>>>>> with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key global
>>>>>> socio-political phenomenon whose governance requires
>>>>>> participative, inclusive and accountable internationalization. "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> parminder
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian Peter wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me have one last go at this to see if we
>>>>>> can get some acceptable wording . Please let me know if the
>>>>>> following draft works, or possible amendments that might make
>>>>>> it work. I'm trying to accommodate the range of interesting
>>>>>> viewpoints we have on this subject
>>>>>> - that is going to require removing some of the concepts
>>>>>> which require further discussion or we will not reach agreement
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've changed the original text quite liberally!
>>>>>> Let me know if this works
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Title
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Internationalization of Internet Governance -
>>>>>> The way forward from where we stand today
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Concise description (up to 200 words)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Internet's present governance structures
>>>>>> grew out of certain historical contexts, as well as some new
>>>>>> socio-political realities around the Internet. In the context
>>>>>> of rapid changes that the Internet has wrought, the key and
>>>>>> emerging issues related to its governance could not have been
>>>>>> anticipated by anyone. One thing however is clear by now; the
>>>>>> Internet is not just a technical artifact, requiring
>>>>>> technical governance with regard to keeping it running
>>>>>> smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
>>>>>> participative, inclusive and accountable
>>>>>> internationalization. It is important to analyze the needs of
>>>>>> evolution and internationalization of IG from various
>>>>>> standpoints and the direction in which we might move from here
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some real
>>>>>> institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>>>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
>>>>>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or
>>>>>> who do you think should organize it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ian Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PO Box 429
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bangalow NSW 2479
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Australia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.ianpeter.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Parminder
>>>>>> [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
>>>>>> Sent: 13 April 2009 13:07
>>>>>> To: 'governance at lists.cpsr.org'
>>>>>> Subject: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop
>>>>>> proposal - Internationalisation of IG
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an attempted draft for the
>>>>>> proposed internationalisation workshop.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Title
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Democratic internationalization of
>>>>>> Internet Governance - The way forward from where we stand today
>>>>>> <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
>>>>>> <!--[endif]-->
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Concise description (up to 200 words)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the Internet becomes a key factor of
>>>>>> reorganizing our social structures, and doing so at a global
>>>>>> level as never before, democratic global governance of the
>>>>>> Internet is a pressing imperative. Its present governance
>>>>>> structures grew out of certain historical contexts, as well
>>>>>> as of some new socio-political realities around the Internet.
>>>>>> In the context of rapid changes that the Internet has
>>>>>> wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its
>>>>>> governance, and the correspondingly legitimate governance
>>>>>> arrangements, could not have been anticipated by anyone. One
>>>>>> thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a
>>>>>> technical artifact, requiring technical governance with
>>>>>> regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
>>>>>> socio-political phenomenon requiring participative political
>>>>>> governance by all people of the world, who are all
>>>>>> implicated. However, the direction we move in from here
>>>>>> depends on where we stand. It is important to analyze the
>>>>>> needs of evolution and internationalization of IG from these
>>>>>> dual standpoints.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The workshop will seek to discuss some
>>>>>> real institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
>>>>>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
>>>>>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who would you approach as co-organizers
>>>>>> ? Or who do you think should organize it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is best that this workshop is
>>>>>> organized by civil society actors. IG Caucus will like to
>>>>>> organize this workshop, along with some civil society
>>>>>> organizations form the North and South that have shown interest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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