[Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation of

Milton L Mueller mueller at syr.edu
Mon Apr 20 12:23:52 EDT 2009


I support the basic idea of both Workshops. However, can we use a term other than "internationalization" to describe Workshop 1? To many, "internationalization" means "takeover by existing intergovernmental organizations. Do we mean "transnationalization" or globalization" instead?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graciela Selaimen [mailto:graciela at rits.org.br]
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:05 AM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Parminder
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal - Internationalisation
> of
>
> Dear all,
>
> I support the proposal of both workshops.
>
> best,
> Graciela
>
> Parminder escreveu:
> > IGC-ers
> >
> > IGC has always taken lead in some key political issues at each IGF,
> > and it will be rather amiss if we do not do. Moreover, it will not be
> > the best outcome of all the energy and time we all devote here
> > voluntarily for some public interest causes we believe it.
> >
> > I therefore seek views and endorsements for the two workshops that i
> > think have a history in IGC's political engagements in global IG
> > forums, especially the IGF. I am trying to push this at this late hour
> > because I do believe ob both these subjects - Network Neutrality and
> > Internationalisation of IG - there is a strong support in the IGC,
> > which for some reasons have not clearly come out.
> >
> > So if you do want IGC to sponsor a workshop on these subjects pl
> > indicate so in the next 24 hours, after which I will request the
> > coordinators to take a call if enough support for these workshop has
> > been forthcoming.  While the text of the two workshop, at this stage
> > of discussion, is posted below, we must remember that this is an
> > initial rough proposal stage, and the final text can be changed to a
> > considerable extent, within the overall stated subject framework,
> > later, which we can do over some discussions. On the other hand, if we
> > do not submit workshop proposals now they cannot be submitted ever for
> > the IGF 4.
> >
> > I am only picking up these two workshops to especially advocate for
> > them on my behalf within the IGC. Other workshop proposals that are
> > moving forward will of course keep doing so, and coordinators may take
> > a final decision tomorrow, though i ma not quite sure what the overall
> > plan is.
> >
> > Thanks, parminder
> >
> > Workshop 1 -
> >
> > *Internationalization of Internet Governance - The way forward from
> > where we stand today *
> > The Internet's present governance structures grew out of certain
> > historical contexts, as well as some new  socio-political realities
> > around the Internet. In the context  of rapid changes that the
> > Internet has wrought, the key and  emerging issues related to its
> > governance could not have been  anticipated by anyone. One thing
> > however is clear by now; the  Internet is not just a technical
> > artifact, requiring  technical governance with regard to keeping it
> > running  smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
> > participative, inclusive and accountable  internationalization. It is
> > important to analyze the needs of  evolution and internationalization
> > of IG from various  standpoints and the direction in which we might
> > move from here.
> >
> >         The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
> > possibilities of what to do next, possibly
> > presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
> > advantages and disadvantages of each.
> >
> >
> >         Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
> >
> >
> >         Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think
> > should organize it?
> >
> >
> >          IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..
> >
> >  It is important to analyze the needs of  evolution and
> > internationalization of IG from various  standpoints and the direction
> > in which we might move from here.
> >
> >         The workshop will seek to discuss some real institutional
> > possibilities of what to do next, possibly
> > presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
> > advantages and disadvantages of each.
> >
> >
> >         Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
> >
> >
> >         Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or who do you think
> > should organize it?
> >
> >
> >          IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop
> > *
> > Workshop 2*
> >
> > *Network Neutrality - Exploring a global consensus on principles*
> >
> > Concise description (up to 200 words)
> > There is an increasing recognition of the urgency to develop some kind
> > of NN principles in order to preserve the open and democratic nature
> > of the Internet, and safeguard the interest of Internet users and
> > others affected by it. This workshop will explore recent efforts to
> > articulate and agree on NN principles in Europe, Japan, the U.S. and
> > developing countries. While proceeding from numerous national
> > regulatory developments, it will try to assess the transnational
> > implications of various approaches to NN, especially vis a vis
> > developing countries who seem largely absent from NN debates.
> >
> > Relates to theme -
> > Openness
> >
> >
> > Who would you approach as co-organizers ? or who do you think should
> > organize it?
> >
> > Internet Governance Project (IGP) is happy to play a support role in
> > organizing this. Others we would approach: Free Press (USA-based civil
> > society advocacy group); Consumer Council of Norway; ITforChange
> > (India-based civil society advocacy group), Japan Internet Providers
> > Association and Ministry of Communications. There are other specific
> > countries or examples that are involved in such negotiations over
> > principles that we don't know about yet but will learn about later. We
> > will seek out additional developing country commentators in particular.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael Gurstein wrote:
> >> I would support this Workshop.
> >>
> >> MBG
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:45 PM
> >> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Ian Peter'; 'Parminder'
> >> Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
> Internationalisation of
> >>
> >>
> >> At th is stage as we all seem to be occupied with other things I do not
> >> believe IGC can endorse this workshop (unless there is a flood of
> support in
> >> next 48 hours and no opposition. Parminder, I would encourage you to
> submit
> >> it in any case.
> >>
> >> Ian Peter
> >> PO Box 429
> >> Bangalow NSW 2479
> >> Australia
> >> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
> >> www.ianpeter.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> >>> Sent: 18 April 2009 05:12
> >>> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder'
> >>> Subject: RE: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
> >>> Internationalisation of
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Parminder. Any more comments on this? I thinkwe need
> >>> expressions of support for the new wording from a few of
> >>> those who were not happy with the previous version if we are
> >>> to submit this as an IGC proposal
> >>>
> >>> Ian Peter
> >>>
> >>> PO Box 429
> >>>
> >>> Bangalow NSW 2479
> >>>
> >>> Australia
> >>>
> >>> Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
> >>>
> >>> www.ianpeter.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>   From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
> >>>   Sent: 18 April 2009 03:01
> >>>   To: 'governance at lists.cpsr.org'; Ian Peter
> >>>   Subject: Re: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop proposal -
> >>> Internationalisation of
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   I am fine with this. Just a technical language related point.
> >>>
> >>>   I think we mean IG and not the Internet to be internationalised.
> >>> Would therefore prefer
> >>>
> >>>   "One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
> >>> just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
> >>> with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
> >>> socio-political phenomenon requiring participative, inclusive
> >>> and accountable internationalization."
> >>>
> >>>   to be changed to
> >>>
> >>>   "One thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not
> >>> just a technical artifact, requiring technical governance
> >>> with regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key global
> >>> socio-political phenomenon whose governance requires
> >>> participative, inclusive and accountable internationalization. "
> >>>
> >>>   parminder
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   Ian Peter wrote:
> >>>
> >>>           Let me have one last go at this to see if we
> >>> can get some acceptable wording . Please let me know if the
> >>> following draft works, or possible amendments that might make
> >>> it work. I'm trying to accommodate the range of interesting
> >>> viewpoints we have on this subject
> >>> - that is going to require removing some of the concepts
> >>> which require further discussion or we will not reach agreement
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           I've changed the original text quite liberally!
> >>> Let me know if this works
> >>>
> >>>           Title
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           Internationalization of Internet Governance -
> >>> The way forward from where we stand today
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           Concise description (up to 200 words)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           The Internet's present governance structures
> >>> grew out of certain historical contexts, as well as some new
> >>> socio-political realities around the Internet. In the context
> >>> of rapid changes that the Internet has wrought, the key and
> >>> emerging issues related to its governance could not have been
> >>> anticipated by anyone. One thing however is clear by now; the
> >>> Internet is not just a technical artifact, requiring
> >>> technical governance with regard to keeping it running
> >>> smoothly, but a key socio-political phenomenon requiring
> >>> participative, inclusive and accountable
> >>> internationalization. It is important to analyze the needs of
> >>> evolution and internationalization of IG from various
> >>> standpoints and the direction in which we might move from here
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           The workshop will seek to discuss some real
> >>> institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
> >>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
> >>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           Who would you approach as co-organizers ? Or
> >>> who do you think should organize it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>            IG Caucus would like to organize this workshop..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>           Ian Peter
> >>>
> >>>           PO Box 429
> >>>
> >>>           Bangalow NSW 2479
> >>>
> >>>           Australia
> >>>
> >>>           Tel (+614) 1966 7772 or (+612) 6687 0773
> >>>
> >>>           www.ianpeter.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>>
> >>>                   From: Parminder
> >>> [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
> >>>                   Sent: 13 April 2009 13:07
> >>>                   To: 'governance at lists.cpsr.org'
> >>>                   Subject: [Fwd: [governance] Workshop
> >>> proposal - Internationalisation of IG
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   This is an attempted draft for the
> >>> proposed internationalisation workshop.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   Title
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   Democratic internationalization of
> >>> Internet Governance - The way forward from where we stand today
> >>>                   <!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
> >>>                   <!--[endif]-->
> >>>
> >>>                   Concise description (up to 200 words)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   As the Internet becomes a key factor of
> >>> reorganizing our social structures, and doing so at a global
> >>> level as never before, democratic global governance of the
> >>> Internet is a pressing imperative. Its present governance
> >>> structures grew out of certain historical contexts, as well
> >>> as of some new socio-political realities around the Internet.
> >>> In the context of rapid changes that the Internet has
> >>> wrought, the key and emerging issues related to its
> >>> governance, and the correspondingly legitimate governance
> >>> arrangements, could not have been anticipated by anyone. One
> >>> thing however is clear by now; the Internet is not just a
> >>> technical artifact, requiring technical governance with
> >>> regard to keeping it running smoothly, but a key
> >>> socio-political phenomenon requiring participative political
> >>> governance by all people of the world, who are all
> >>> implicated.  However, the direction we move in from here
> >>> depends on where we stand. It is important to analyze the
> >>> needs of evolution and internationalization of IG from these
> >>> dual standpoints.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   The workshop will seek to discuss some
> >>> real institutional possibilities of what to do next, possibly
> >>> presenting and analyzing alternative models, along with the
> >>> advantages and disadvantages of each.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   Relates to theme - IG, CIRs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   Who would you approach as co-organizers
> >>> ? Or who do you think should organize it?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>                   It is best that this workshop is
> >>> organized by civil society actors. IG Caucus will like to
> >>> organize this workshop, along with some  civil society
> >>> organizations form the North and South that have shown interest.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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