[governance] Fwd: UN & ITU: "A Chinese Internet for the world"-UN &

[Jeffrey A. Williams]

Fouad and all,

  May I humbly suggest that one way to deal with the ITU is
to recognize them for what they are AND what they represent.
Meaning, if any proposed standard that the ITU proports that
wasn't open for public review and approval cannot become
a standard, including free and unfettered access to ALL of the
relevant documentation.

  The IETF has, and has had many problems to be sure, but it's
process in developing standards is far superior to the ITU's at
present, yet even so, the IETF's process could be greatly improved
and far more transparent.

Fouad Bajwa wrote:

> Hmm, true, but now that this is happening, we should interact at some
> level and intervene on this issue. Now, will the CS Caucus have a
> stand against it or in favor of it and will it bring up this issue
> during the IGF Hyderabad or Cairo?
>
> What are the possible statements and evidence for defence that we can
> unsurface if we are to pursue this avenue? I was expecting more input
> from the rest of the members as well. There is evident need for us to
> take some interest in it?
>
> Fouad
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Jeffrey A. Williams
> <jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Fouad and all,
> >
> >  I did mention this earlier.  But as some know whom have
> > some experiance with the ITU, that that standards body has
> > been interested in desiring to go this direction for several
> > years now.  They have also had serious disagreements with
> > their main standards rival, the IETF as well, see:
> >  http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/083007-mpls.html?netht=083007dailynews1&&nladname=083107dailynews
> >
> >
> >
> > Fouad Bajwa wrote:
> >
> >> All members of the CS Caucus should be aware of this..............is
> >> it really possible to do so! Well they are eventually doing it and I
> >> wasn't expecting ITU to be at the heart of this and I wonder why no
> >> one in CS Caucus mentioned this earlier, well its happening now:
> >>
> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10040152-38.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0
> >>
> >> Plz read below the signature for the original message:
> >>
> >> Fouad Bajwa
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:40:42 +0200
> >> From: Alberto Barrionuevo
> >> Subject: UN & ITU: "A Chinese Internet for the world"
> >> To: public
> >>
> >> This article argues that UN & ITU plan to remove anonomity from Internet by
> >> proposal of China via a standard workgroup called "IP Traceback" (its name is
> >> descriptive enough):
> >>
> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10040152-38.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0
> >>
> >> Saludos,
> >> --
> >> Alberto Barrionuevo
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
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