SV: [governance] Inputs for synthesis paper

[Kleinwächter, Wolfgang]

Dear Jeff
 
you promised some weeks ago to reduce your number of mails. 11 mails in 24 hours is quite a lot. While I appreciate some of your comments I would be thankful to have it reduced to five per day.
 
Thanks a lot for your understanding. 
 
Wolfgang

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Fra: Jeffrey A. Williams [mailto:jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com]
Sendt: ti 02-09-2008 11:26
Til: governance at lists.cpsr.org; McTim
Emne: Re: [governance] Inputs for synthesis paper



McTim and all,

  Behold, wonders are never predictable.  Someday Google will
not be such a prolific spammer.  And when that occurs, it will
be a wonder to behold!  >:)  But alas, I have great doubt that
such will occur in my lifetime.

McTim wrote:

> All,
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>> > Conceptions of 'rights and the Internet' extend to the area of
> >>> > positive
> >>> > rights - for instance in the area of access, where a 'right to the
> >>> > Internet' is being articulated by some groups, and to collective rights
> >>> > like cultural rights, including the right to have an Internet in ones
> >>> > own language, which can underpin the
> >> > important IGF thematic area of cultural diversity.
> >
> > I oppose this language. As I have made clear, I don't think there is such a
> > thing as a collective right, or a positive right that is meaningful in this
> > context, and have no idea what is meant by "cultural rights" -- except that
> > people have spent centuries violating all kinds of rights -- expression,
> > association, life -- in an attempt to protect collectivities or cultures.
> >
>
> Agreed, I think we are really over-reaching here.
>
> > I see that Parminder has chosen to ignore extensive evidence of contention
> > around this issue on the list, and apparently thinks he can put his own
> > views into our mouths. As always, we can engage with these disagreements
> > honestly, or dishonestly; i.e., we can recognize in the statement
> > differences of views about what rights are and how they are defined, or we
> > one faction that is temporarily dominant and holding the pen.
>
> I am agreeing 2x in one mail with Milton, will wonders never cease? ;-)
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> mctim.blogspot.com
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