[governance] Inputs for synthesis paper

Jeffrey A. Williams jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Tue Sep 2 05:22:56 EDT 2008


Milton and all,

  Thank you for your support.  As I have already articulated for
the I don't know how many times, rights of language and collective
rights are a non sequiter, and should be stricken accordingly, I don't
care whom is "Holding the pen".  I respect greatly Parminder's and
others
feelings on this, but the facts do not change based upon such feelings
in as
much as effectual rights are concerned.

Milton L Mueller wrote:

>
>
>
> >> > Conceptions of 'rights and the Internet' extend to the area of
> >> > positive
> >> > rights - for instance in the area of access, where a 'right to
> the
> >> > Internet' is being articulated by some groups, and to collective
> rights
> >> > like cultural rights, including the right to have an Internet in
> ones
> >> > own language, which can underpin the
> > > important IGF thematic area of cultural diversity.
>
> I oppose this language. As I have made clear, I don't think there is
> such a thing as a collective right, or a positive right that is
> meaningful in this context, and have no idea what is meant by
> "cultural rights" -- except that people have spent centuries violating
> all kinds of rights -- expression, association, life -- in an attempt
> to protect collectivities or cultures.
>
> I see that Parminder has chosen to ignore extensive evidence of
> contention around this issue on the list, and apparently thinks he can
> put his own views into our mouths. As always, we can engage with these
> disagreements honestly, or dishonestly; i.e., we can recognize in the
> statement differences of views about what rights are and how they are
> defined, or we one faction that is temporarily dominant and holding
> the pen.
>
>
>
>
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