[governance] no need to feed the trolls

Jeanette Hofmann jeanette at wzb.eu
Mon Oct 27 07:15:46 EDT 2008


Hi,
the best thing is to filter emails from Jeffrey and ignore him. This 
reduces the noise to those who keep replying to Jeffrey's emails. I have 
been doing this for years and it works well.
jeanette

Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
> Adam and all,
> 
>   Sorry Adam, your incorrect.  INEGroup is registered and is
> filed with the US FEC.  Submitting a FOIA request, which has been
> done on several occasions, will give you the factual information
> via an independant source that you need or desire.  Further
> we are registered with Edgar and DOC/NTIA as of 1998 which
> you can check out for yourself if you so choose, also via a
> FOIA request as well.  So as always, do your due diligance
> if you desire accordingly.
> 
>   Sorry everyone else, but Adam is publically here challanging
> me and INEGroup, yet he has never submitted the legally proper
> FOIA request to be making the FALSE statement he is making
> below.  However Adam has had from time to time disagreements
> with our members positions and has demonstrated privately
> via Email that he has a personal vendetta, as I would and others
> whom have reviewed independantly those Email at my request,
> discribed such.  This is unfortunate and certainly not any of
> my doing.  But if you wish, I can forward those Email to any
> of you for your review upon request and a signed non disclosure
> agreement if you provide a mailing address or via forward by
> Email if you have a valid and up to date, Class 2 cert.
> 
>   But Adam is correct about one thing, that member count in
> my sig file below, is not fully up to date.  That is simply because
> I don't yet have an accurate count, but our membership is now
> estimated to be closer to 284,000 members presently.  However
> until I recieve an accurate count, I will not be updating my Sig file
> to reflect the correct figure accordingly so as not to be misleading.
> 
> Adam Peake wrote:
> 
>>> Hi Ian and Parminder,
>>>
>>> Would you both like to intervene on these issues of identity crisis please?
>> Why?
>>
>> Jeff Williams has been posting to ICANN and general Internet lists
>> for years. You will find plenty of notes about who he is (or is not)
>> and about the claims he makes.
>>
>> He closes every email with a .sig that's patently untrue.  There is
>> no INEGroup LLA, no 281k members/stakeholders.
>>
>> You judge if you want to bother replying. I'd suggest best just to
>> ignore him.  It's not about substance, some of his emails are as sane
>> as anyone else's, some are inflammatory, some are just silly. As the
>> subject lines suggests it's best not to feed the troll. And to use
>> another online cliche... your mileage may vary.
>>
>> I am not Paddy bateman,, but I agree with his/her comment.
>>
>> It would also be best not to continue this thread!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Paddy bateman
>>> <pbateman.igov at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  > For those who may be tempted to take seriously the posts by Jeff Williams,
>>>>  please consider that his only role in the Internet community is as a
>>>>  longstanding troll who has delighted in clogging up multiple
>>>>  Internet-related mailing lists with gibberish and lies over the past decade.
>>>>  It's nothing more than a game for him. The best way of keeping this list
>>>>  useful is to completely ignore his posts.
>>>>
>>>>  For more background information, see here:
>>>  > http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
>>>>  And if he complains that he he is being defamed by this mail, which he
>>>>  probably will, and you are tempted to take him seriously, first ask him
>>>>  where you may be able to find some information about "INEGroup LLA", the
>>>>  imaginary organization he claims to be spokesperson for. If INEGroup LLA
>>>>  actually existed, and if it had more than 281,000
>>>>  members as he falsely claims in each of his mails, then you would think
>>>>  there might be some public information available. You'd also think that one
>>>>  or two of those members might be willing to identify themselves.
>>>>
>>>>  He is playing a game. We are trying to tackle serious issues. We do not need
>>>>  his distractions.
>>>>
>>>>  -pb
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> --------------------------
>>> Fouad Bajwa
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> Regards,
> 
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>    Abraham Lincoln
> 
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> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> 
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
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