[governance] no need to feed the trolls

Sun Oct 26 22:04:20 EDT 2008

Jeanette and all,

  Certainly selective sensorship works.  I employ it when and where
necessary and justified ethically speaking.  I cannot of course say
for myself that such applies to myself or any of our INEGroup members.
Thankfully Jeanette is one of a tiny few that does.  But idologically
extream often take such a position...

Jeanette Hofmann wrote:

> Hi,
> the best thing is to filter emails from Jeffrey and ignore him. This
> reduces the noise to those who keep replying to Jeffrey's emails. I have
> been doing this for years and it works well.
> jeanette
>
> Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
> > Adam and all,
> >
> >   Sorry Adam, your incorrect.  INEGroup is registered and is
> > filed with the US FEC.  Submitting a FOIA request, which has been
> > done on several occasions, will give you the factual information
> > via an independant source that you need or desire.  Further
> > we are registered with Edgar and DOC/NTIA as of 1998 which
> > you can check out for yourself if you so choose, also via a
> > FOIA request as well.  So as always, do your due diligance
> > if you desire accordingly.
> >
> >   Sorry everyone else, but Adam is publically here challanging
> > me and INEGroup, yet he has never submitted the legally proper
> > FOIA request to be making the FALSE statement he is making
> > below.  However Adam has had from time to time disagreements
> > with our members positions and has demonstrated privately
> > via Email that he has a personal vendetta, as I would and others
> > whom have reviewed independantly those Email at my request,
> > discribed such.  This is unfortunate and certainly not any of
> > my doing.  But if you wish, I can forward those Email to any
> > of you for your review upon request and a signed non disclosure
> > agreement if you provide a mailing address or via forward by
> > Email if you have a valid and up to date, Class 2 cert.
> >
> >   But Adam is correct about one thing, that member count in
> > my sig file below, is not fully up to date.  That is simply because
> > I don't yet have an accurate count, but our membership is now
> > estimated to be closer to 284,000 members presently.  However
> > until I recieve an accurate count, I will not be updating my Sig file
> > to reflect the correct figure accordingly so as not to be misleading.
> >
> > Adam Peake wrote:
> >
> >>> Hi Ian and Parminder,
> >>>
> >>> Would you both like to intervene on these issues of identity crisis please?
> >> Why?
> >>
> >> Jeff Williams has been posting to ICANN and general Internet lists
> >> for years. You will find plenty of notes about who he is (or is not)
> >> and about the claims he makes.
> >>
> >> He closes every email with a .sig that's patently untrue.  There is
> >> no INEGroup LLA, no 281k members/stakeholders.
> >>
> >> You judge if you want to bother replying. I'd suggest best just to
> >> ignore him.  It's not about substance, some of his emails are as sane
> >> as anyone else's, some are inflammatory, some are just silly. As the
> >> subject lines suggests it's best not to feed the troll. And to use
> >> another online cliche... your mileage may vary.
> >>
> >> I am not Paddy bateman,, but I agree with his/her comment.
> >>
> >> It would also be best not to continue this thread!
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Paddy bateman
> >>> <pbateman.igov at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>  > For those who may be tempted to take seriously the posts by Jeff Williams,
> >>>>  please consider that his only role in the Internet community is as a
> >>>>  longstanding troll who has delighted in clogging up multiple
> >>>>  Internet-related mailing lists with gibberish and lies over the past decade.
> >>>>  It's nothing more than a game for him. The best way of keeping this list
> >>>>  useful is to completely ignore his posts.
> >>>>
> >>>>  For more background information, see here:
> >>>  > http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
> >>>>  And if he complains that he he is being defamed by this mail, which he
> >>>>  probably will, and you are tempted to take him seriously, first ask him
> >>>>  where you may be able to find some information about "INEGroup LLA", the
> >>>>  imaginary organization he claims to be spokesperson for. If INEGroup LLA
> >>>>  actually existed, and if it had more than 281,000
> >>>>  members as he falsely claims in each of his mails, then you would think
> >>>>  there might be some public information available. You'd also think that one
> >>>>  or two of those members might be willing to identify themselves.
> >>>>
> >>>>  He is playing a game. We are trying to tackle serious issues. We do not need
> >>>>  his distractions.
> >>>>
> >>>>  -pb
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Regards.
> >>> --------------------------
> >>> Fouad Bajwa
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> > Regards,
> >
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
> > div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
> > jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
> > My Phone: 214-244-4827
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
My Phone: 214-244-4827

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