[governance] no need to feed the trolls
Rudi Vansnick
rudi.vansnick at isoc.be
Mon Oct 27 05:57:50 EDT 2008
Jeffrey,
If the organisation is real can you please send us the official by laws ?
I would like to know what INEGroup stands for, who the stakeholders are,
who the members are and how I could eventually join the organisation ?
Kind regards,
Rudi Vansnick
Jeffrey A. Williams schreef:
> Adam and all,
>
> Sorry Adam, your incorrect. INEGroup is registered and is
> filed with the US FEC. Submitting a FOIA request, which has been
> done on several occasions, will give you the factual information
> via an independant source that you need or desire. Further
> we are registered with Edgar and DOC/NTIA as of 1998 which
> you can check out for yourself if you so choose, also via a
> FOIA request as well. So as always, do your due diligance
> if you desire accordingly.
>
> Sorry everyone else, but Adam is publically here challanging
> me and INEGroup, yet he has never submitted the legally proper
> FOIA request to be making the FALSE statement he is making
> below. However Adam has had from time to time disagreements
> with our members positions and has demonstrated privately
> via Email that he has a personal vendetta, as I would and others
> whom have reviewed independantly those Email at my request,
> discribed such. This is unfortunate and certainly not any of
> my doing. But if you wish, I can forward those Email to any
> of you for your review upon request and a signed non disclosure
> agreement if you provide a mailing address or via forward by
> Email if you have a valid and up to date, Class 2 cert.
>
> But Adam is correct about one thing, that member count in
> my sig file below, is not fully up to date. That is simply because
> I don't yet have an accurate count, but our membership is now
> estimated to be closer to 284,000 members presently. However
> until I recieve an accurate count, I will not be updating my Sig file
> to reflect the correct figure accordingly so as not to be misleading.
>
> Adam Peake wrote:
>
>
>>> Hi Ian and Parminder,
>>>
>>> Would you both like to intervene on these issues of identity crisis please?
>>>
>> Why?
>>
>> Jeff Williams has been posting to ICANN and general Internet lists
>> for years. You will find plenty of notes about who he is (or is not)
>> and about the claims he makes.
>>
>> He closes every email with a .sig that's patently untrue. There is
>> no INEGroup LLA, no 281k members/stakeholders.
>>
>> You judge if you want to bother replying. I'd suggest best just to
>> ignore him. It's not about substance, some of his emails are as sane
>> as anyone else's, some are inflammatory, some are just silly. As the
>> subject lines suggests it's best not to feed the troll. And to use
>> another online cliche... your mileage may vary.
>>
>> I am not Paddy bateman,, but I agree with his/her comment.
>>
>> It would also be best not to continue this thread!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Paddy bateman
>>> <pbateman.igov at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > For those who may be tempted to take seriously the posts by Jeff Williams,
>>>
>>>> please consider that his only role in the Internet community is as a
>>>> longstanding troll who has delighted in clogging up multiple
>>>> Internet-related mailing lists with gibberish and lies over the past decade.
>>>> It's nothing more than a game for him. The best way of keeping this list
>>>> useful is to completely ignore his posts.
>>>>
>>>> For more background information, see here:
>>>>
>>> > http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
>>>
>>>> And if he complains that he he is being defamed by this mail, which he
>>>> probably will, and you are tempted to take him seriously, first ask him
>>>> where you may be able to find some information about "INEGroup LLA", the
>>>> imaginary organization he claims to be spokesperson for. If INEGroup LLA
>>>> actually existed, and if it had more than 281,000
>>>> members as he falsely claims in each of his mails, then you would think
>>>> there might be some public information available. You'd also think that one
>>>> or two of those members might be willing to identify themselves.
>>>>
>>>> He is playing a game. We are trying to tackle serious issues. We do not need
>>>> his distractions.
>>>>
>>>> -pb
>>>>
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>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> --------------------------
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> Regards,
>
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