[governance] no need to feed the trolls

Sun Oct 26 05:52:27 EDT 2008

Adam and all,

  Sorry Adam, your incorrect.  INEGroup is registered and is
filed with the US FEC.  Submitting a FOIA request, which has been
done on several occasions, will give you the factual information
via an independant source that you need or desire.  Further
we are registered with Edgar and DOC/NTIA as of 1998 which
you can check out for yourself if you so choose, also via a
FOIA request as well.  So as always, do your due diligance
if you desire accordingly.

  Sorry everyone else, but Adam is publically here challanging
me and INEGroup, yet he has never submitted the legally proper
FOIA request to be making the FALSE statement he is making
below.  However Adam has had from time to time disagreements
with our members positions and has demonstrated privately
via Email that he has a personal vendetta, as I would and others
whom have reviewed independantly those Email at my request,
discribed such.  This is unfortunate and certainly not any of
my doing.  But if you wish, I can forward those Email to any
of you for your review upon request and a signed non disclosure
agreement if you provide a mailing address or via forward by
Email if you have a valid and up to date, Class 2 cert.

  But Adam is correct about one thing, that member count in
my sig file below, is not fully up to date.  That is simply because
I don't yet have an accurate count, but our membership is now
estimated to be closer to 284,000 members presently.  However
until I recieve an accurate count, I will not be updating my Sig file
to reflect the correct figure accordingly so as not to be misleading.

Adam Peake wrote:

> >Hi Ian and Parminder,
> >
> >Would you both like to intervene on these issues of identity crisis please?
>
> Why?
>
> Jeff Williams has been posting to ICANN and general Internet lists
> for years. You will find plenty of notes about who he is (or is not)
> and about the claims he makes.
>
> He closes every email with a .sig that's patently untrue.  There is
> no INEGroup LLA, no 281k members/stakeholders.
>
> You judge if you want to bother replying. I'd suggest best just to
> ignore him.  It's not about substance, some of his emails are as sane
> as anyone else's, some are inflammatory, some are just silly. As the
> subject lines suggests it's best not to feed the troll. And to use
> another online cliche... your mileage may vary.
>
> I am not Paddy bateman,, but I agree with his/her comment.
>
> It would also be best not to continue this thread!
>
> Adam
>
> >On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Paddy bateman
> ><pbateman.igov at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  > For those who may be tempted to take seriously the posts by Jeff Williams,
> >>  please consider that his only role in the Internet community is as a
> >>  longstanding troll who has delighted in clogging up multiple
> >>  Internet-related mailing lists with gibberish and lies over the past decade.
> >>  It's nothing more than a game for him. The best way of keeping this list
> >>  useful is to completely ignore his posts.
> >>
> >>  For more background information, see here:
> >  > http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08030.html
> >>
> >>  And if he complains that he he is being defamed by this mail, which he
> >>  probably will, and you are tempted to take him seriously, first ask him
> >>  where you may be able to find some information about "INEGroup LLA", the
> >>  imaginary organization he claims to be spokesperson for. If INEGroup LLA
> >>  actually existed, and if it had more than 281,000
> >>  members as he falsely claims in each of his mails, then you would think
> >>  there might be some public information available. You'd also think that one
> >>  or two of those members might be willing to identify themselves.
> >>
> >>  He is playing a game. We are trying to tackle serious issues. We do not need
> >>  his distractions.
> >>
> >>  -pb
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >Regards.
> >--------------------------
> >Fouad Bajwa
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!)
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   Abraham Lincoln

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very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

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