[governance] Every Email In UK To Be Monitored
Rui Correia
correia.rui at gmail.com
Sat Oct 18 06:47:13 EDT 2008
David
I think you saved a few hundred people the agony of fighting to be nice so
as not to say what you just said.
Boy! What next: the double-decker red buses must also have to do with being
a monarchy. In republics, they don't have single deck buses.
And who is King Philip? Would it be King Philip of Spain? He died in 1665 -
I was not aware that he had a problem with servants listening in on his
singing.
Rui
On 18/10/2008, David Goldstein <goldstein_david at yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> What utter crap Peter. Maybe you should do a modicum of research before you
> make such dumb, stupid and idiotic comments.
>
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Peter Dambier <peter at peter-dambier.de>
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Sent: Saturday, 18 October, 2008 9:02:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [governance] Every Email In UK To Be Monitored
>
> Sorry if I was looking funny.
>
> I literally meant everybody's emails will be visible for
> everybody. That is how british privacy has shown to work.
>
> The "toilet cam" is reality in the UK. They are everywhere
> and they are shown in the public tv. There have been
> divorces because women have seen their husbands in the tv
> meeting another women. They could not but divorce because
> their neighbours have seen it too.
>
> British government is selling used disks with sensitive
> data of all their people including military personal.
>
> The leaks in the UK are institutional.
>
> The UK is a monarchy. King Philip cannot sing a song in the
> bathtub without some servant listening and telling it the
> sun newspaper so all the brits can read it next day.
>
> Of course they feel this natural and they don't understand
> why people from a republic might think different.
>
> Mostly the same goes for Australia. They used to be a jail
> island for the brits and they still are. Every email send by
> an inmate is read same as every email received. Their internet
> is censored and they cannot opt out. Guess where the chinese
> are testing all their hardware.
>
> Of course you know about the banks crisis that might put
> capitalism to its end. But did you know it started when the
> german secrect service leaked information about swiss and
> liechtentein banks. You can read in wikileaks or wikipedia
> how the german service has given money to siemens to buy into
> crypto ag, the company that does the encryption for all the
> banks all over the world.
>
> Every information leaked that was not meant for the public has
> hindered bank business and now the banks have stopped working.
>
> Cordialement
> Peter
>
> Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
> > Peter and all,
> >
> > My use of tolit cam was meant to be an extreme example
> > of how far it seems that invasion of privacy by the UK government
> > may be willing ot go. I wasn't trying to be funny at all...
> >
> > Peter Dambier wrote:
> >
> >> I wont give the link here - but toilet cam...
> >> You cannot miss them as long as google is not censored.
> >>
> >> I used to be working for a computer company that got
> >> bankrupt - maybe because they watched the toilet cam
> >> all day long and did not have time to build computers.
> >>
> >> In the UK that database means everybody can read it
> >> not only in the UK
> >>
> >> Imagine Monty Python, King Phillip and the Prince of Wales
> >> they are all known for their peculiar sense of humor and
> >> now everybody can read their emails.
> >>
> >> kind regards
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> Sorry to read of this. What's next in the UK, toilet cams
> >>> perhaps? Or perhaps manditory implanted RFID tracking
> >>> chips?
> >>>
> >>> God save the queen! ( Poor woman ) >:(
> >>>
> >>> P.S. But I am sure Stalins soul is getting a reprieve by
> >>> St. Peter...
> >>>
> >>> See:
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/UKgovernment/Parliament/DG_078075
> >>>
> >>> The Communications Data Bill (2008) will lead to the creation of
> >>> a single, centralized database containing records of all e-mails sent,
> >>> websites visited and mobile phones used by UK citizens. In
> >>> a carnivore-on-steroids programme, as all vestiges of communication
> >>> privacy are stripped away, The BBC reports that Home Secretary Jacqui
> >>> Smith says http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7671046.stm this
> >>> is a "necessity".
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
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> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
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