FW: [Bill-of-Rights] [governance] germany plans citizen email

[Michael Gurstein]

Thanks very much for this Jaco, a very very interesting (and probably
necessary) linkage between a "Right to the Internet" as Parminder suggests
is implied by the German program, and "An Internet Bill of Rights" (A Bill
of Internet Rights?)... especially necessary in situations where a "Right to
the Internet" becomes a state imposed obligatory use of the Internet... (be
careful what you wish for ;-)
 
MG
 
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Subject: Re: [Bill-of-Rights] [governance] germany plans citizen email


I can comment on what *already* happened in Costa Rica, where a similar
program was launched in 2000(*):

Most people use not just the Government, www.costarricense.cr , but also
Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo or/and the work email.

Tracking is a problem, but the problem applies not just for the public
sector providers but also for the private sector providers, which have even
much more pointers (email, searches, social sites, etc).

That´s why it is perceived locally as a necessity and as a human right
having an Internet Bill of Rights (Law #15890, presented in 2004).

(*) It was not just email, but:
-Free access all over the country,  including remote areas that satellite
access was used.
-Free website.
-The concept of universalizing virtual personality, including bank accounts
(Good for people in extreme poverty)) and others, which a a few years later
ended in the Congress with the virtual personality fundamental right, 


On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ian Peter <ian.peter at ianpeter.com> wrote:



Comments below


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com]
> Sent: 12 October 2008 10:02
> To: Governance List
> Subject: Re: [governance] germany plans citizen email
>
>
> On 11 Oct 2008, at 01:38, Ian Peter wrote:


Not be, I was quoting Johannes Ernst
>
> > First you create a universal digital identifier for each citizen
> > that they have no control over (e.g. they can't have more than one
> > for different purposes, change it to something else, run it on a
> > different computer, decide not to show their name in it etc.)
> >
>
>
> but would they be required to use t for anything other then government
> business?  sure if they use it for other stuff then tracking becomes
> possible, but if it is just your gov't id used when doing citizen stuff?
>
> a.
>

I don't know, I guess that's the sort of detail that's really needed to
evaluate this properly. But national ID schemes with attached data matching
capabilities are a privacy issue, and the US social security number is a
case in point.





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