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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN class=923190904-12102008>Thanks
very much for this Jaco, a very very interesting (and probably necessary)
linkage between a "Right to the Internet" as Parminder suggests is implied by
the German program, and "An Internet Bill of Rights" (A Bill of Internet
Rights?)... especially necessary in situations where a "Right to the Internet"
becomes a state imposed obligatory use of the Internet... (be careful what
you wish for ;-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=923190904-12102008>MG</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr lang=en-us class=OutlookMessageHeader align=left><FONT size=2
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> bill-<SPAN
class=923190904-12102008><FONT color=#0000ff
face=Arial> </FONT></SPAN>of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org
[mailto:bill-of-rights-bounces@ipjustice.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jaco
Aizenman<BR><B>Sent:</B> October-12-08 2:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
governance@lists.cpsr.org; Ian Peter; bill-of-rights@ipjustice.org<BR><B>Cc:</B>
Avri Doria<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bill-of-Rights] [governance] germany plans
citizen email<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>I can comment on what *already* happened in Costa Rica, where a
similar program was launched in 2000(*):<BR><BR>Most people use not just the
Government, <A href="http://www.costarricense.cr">www.costarricense.cr</A> , but
also Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo or/and the work email.<BR><BR>Tracking is a problem,
but the problem applies not just for the public sector providers but also for
the private sector providers, which have even much more pointers (email,
searches, social sites, etc).<BR><BR>Thatīs why it is perceived locally as a
necessity and as a human right having an Internet Bill of Rights (Law #15890,
presented in 2004).<BR><BR>(*) It was not just email, but:<BR>-Free access all
over the country, including remote areas that satellite access was
used.<BR>-Free website.<BR>-The concept of universalizing virtual personality,
including bank accounts (Good for people in extreme poverty)) and others, which
a a few years later ended in the Congress with the virtual personality
fundamental right, <BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Ian Peter <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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-----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Avri Doria [mailto:<A
href="mailto:avri@psg.com">avri@psg.com</A>]<BR>> Sent: 12 October 2008
10:02<BR>> To: Governance List<BR>> Subject: Re: [governance] germany
plans citizen email<BR>><BR>><BR>> On 11 Oct 2008, at 01:38, Ian
Peter wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Ih2E3d>Not be, I was quoting Johannes Ernst<BR>><BR>> >
First you create a universal digital identifier for each citizen<BR>> >
that they have no control over (e.g. they can't have more than one<BR>>
> for different purposes, change it to something else, run it on a<BR>>
> different computer, decide not to show their name in it etc.)<BR>>
><BR>><BR>><BR>> but would they be required to use t for anything
other then government<BR>> business? sure if they use it for other
stuff then tracking becomes<BR>> possible, but if it is just your gov't id
used when doing citizen stuff?<BR>><BR>> a.<BR>><BR></DIV>I don't
know, I guess that's the sort of detail that's really needed to<BR>evaluate
this properly. But national ID schemes with attached data
matching<BR>capabilities are a privacy issue, and the US social security
number is a<BR>case in point.<BR>
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