[governance] how to un-digg?

Adam Peake ajp at glocom.ac.jp
Wed May 21 15:23:40 EDT 2008


Hi, just to be clear, it wasn't me who was misquoted, that was Bill's story.

Thanks for the advice about digg.  I am surprised 
about some of the other reactions.  But more 
later.

Thanks,

Adam



At 1:23 PM -0400 5/21/08, Avri Doria wrote:
>Hi,
>
>It really is a consideration as to whether the 
>journalist agreed to allow Adam to read before 
>publication.  If he did, and did not follow 
>through then he behaved badly.    I do not think 
>that having a signed piece of paper would 
>matter, nor contacting the editor. If the 
>journalist is going to be dishonorable, it is 
>almost certain that he or she is doing so with 
>the complicity of the editor and pieces of paper 
>mean very very little - except as kindling.
>
>I think the only reasonable policy is to say as 
>little as possible to the press and only when it 
>suits your purposes, and when you do, know for 
>sure that they are going to mangle your words to 
>suit their political and sales objectives.  And 
>if, perchance, you find one who is honorable and 
>does a truthful job, thank your lucky stars for 
>you will have met something as rare as truth. 
>And of course then you can feel free to talk to 
>that one again. In fact I would recommend you 
>treat the press as you would any other stranger 
>on the street or on the net, with great caution 
>until you know them and their reputation.
>
>a.
>
>Ps. no condemnation meant against the few 
>members of the press that participate in the 
>civil society lists.  I expect you are among the 
>rare ones - otherwise the nonsense of this list 
>would have long since amused interested readers 
>worldwide.
>
>On 21 May 2008, at 09:10, Nyangkwe Agien Aaron wrote:
>
>>Adam wrote "I asked, as I usually do, that they 
>>send me the text first before running it, but 
>>in my experience journalists usually can't be 
>>bothered to do that".
>>If I agree with the first part of the remark 
>>that bothers with unprofessionalism by members 
>>of the the Press corps, I disagree with the 
>>affirmation that "Journalists usually cannot 
>>bother to do it". Journalism ethics allows for 
>>news sources interviewed to look at transcripts 
>>of their statements (on demand) before the 
>>bulletin goes to print. If Adam requested to 
>>read the transcript and the Spanish Journalist 
>>refused, thus going ahead to mangle his 
>>statement or proceed to utter mis-statement, 
>>the said Journalist did go against ethics.
>>What Adams had to do was to write to the Editor 
>>stating the mis-statement and pointing out the 
>>fact that he requested to read the interview 
>>and ascertain that words were not put in his 
>>mouth but the Journalist did not respect it. 
>>The Editor will be bound to carry out the 
>>correction and in sanction the Journalist for 
>>such gross misconduct.
>>So Journalists usually are not bothered to 
>>having interviews visaed by interviewees. They 
>>are the interviewees letting bad Journalists go 
>>their way by not insisting à priori to read the 
>>transcript before engaging in a one-for-one.
>>NEXT TIME, INSIST ON HAVING TO READ THE 
>>TRANSCRIPT BEFORE PUBLICATION PRIOR TO GRANTING 
>>THE INTERVIEW. YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THIS 
>>AGREEMENT IN WRITING BEFORE SITTING DOWN TO 
>>TALK. THIS IS MORE SO IN AN AREA LIKE IG WHERE 
>>VERY FEW JOURNALMISTS HAVE SOME BACK GROUND
>>
>>AARON
>>
>>
>>On 5/21/08, Ralf Bendrath 
>><bendrath at zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote: Robert 
>>Guerra schrieb:
>>Someone raised a related kind of issue during the Rio IGF -- how do
>>we teach the Internet how to forget (or do we need the Internet to
>>learn how to forget?)
>>That was about personal information, not about stuff in newspapers.
>>
>>The argument is originally from Victor Mayer-Schönberger:
>><http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP07-022>
>>
>>But still:
>>As I don't think we want the leading libraries 
>>of the world to "forget/erase" books,
>>Most libraries throw out books on a regular basis, because their storage
>>space is limited.
>>
>>I would be - very cautious - with the global knowledge resource (aka.
>>the internet) forgetting facts and thus changing history..
>>Interesting point. I also think that any corrections have to be clearly
>>marked.
>>
>>Best, Ralf
>>
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