[governance] NOMCOM - MAG

Wed Mar 26 12:54:19 EDT 2008

Okay smarty-pants you summarize the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_caf%C3%A9#Indonesia

Indonesia 

According to APWKomitel <http://www.apwkomitel.org/>  (Associations of
Community Internet Center) there are 5,000 Internet Cafe in urban Indonesian
cities in 2006 providing computer/printer/scanner rental, training, PC game
and Internet Access/Rental to the people that do not have PC or internet
access at home. The website <http://www.apwkomitel.org/sumatra.html>  also
contains a directory listing some of these warnet/telecenter/gamecenter in
Indonesia. In urban area, the generic name is Warnet
<http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warnet>  (or Warung Internet) and in rural
area the generic name is Telecenter. Warnets/ Netcafes (ie: Java NetCafe
<http://www.milenia.net/>  established in 1998) are usually owned by private
SME as bottom up initiative, while Telecenter in rural villages are usually
initiated by Government and Donor as top down financing. Information on
Netcafe/Warnet in Indonesia can also be found in a book titled: Connected
for Development:Indonesian Case study
<http://www.i4donline.net/ATF/2007/fullpapers/Rudi_ATF07ABS129.pdf> .
Currently, there are no special license for operating Internet Cafe or
Warnet in Indonesia, except for ordinary business license also applied to
cafe or small shop. Because of hype and many internet cafe start their
business without proper planning, some of them closed down lack of business
plan.Although the number is still growing, Association such as APWKomitel
<http://wsis-online.org/smsi/organization/organization-view?group_id=326287>
urges new internet cafe owner to do a feasibility study for startup netcafe
and provide business model called Multipurpose Community Internet Center or
"MCI Center"
<http://www.itu.int/wsis/stocktaking/scripts/documents.asp?project=114379504
9&lang=en>  to make the business more sustainable and competitive.

MG

-----Original Message-----
From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller at syr.edu] 
Sent: March 26, 2008 9:29 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Michael Gurstein; Parminder
Subject: RE: [governance] NOMCOM - MAG

I love this jargon. "Revenue based community micro-enterprises." Some of us
call that "small business." I do _not_ wish to enter into any debate about
the group's CS credentials or eligibility, it's fine with me. But you gotta
love this.

  _____  

From: Michael Gurstein [mailto:gurstein at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:53 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Parminder'
Subject: RE: [governance] NOMCOM - MAG

Parminder,

Based on what Rudi has said below and what I understand about the role of
Warnets in Indonesia (a rather unique hybrid of a cybercafe and a
telecentre) I would guess that both he and his association would qualify as
CS (they operate as revenue based community micro-enteprises...

MG

-----Original Message-----
From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net] 
Sent: March 25, 2008 6:22 AM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
Subject: [governance] NOMCOM - MAG

Thanks a lot, Rudi. We do need more people to volunteer, and especially from
different parts of the world, which may currently be under-represented. 

However, I am not clear about your self-declaration which mentions both
private sector and NGO.

To be a full member of the IGC one has to self-declare oneself as a civil
society person. Such full membership is necessary to hold caucus
appointments, like being on the nomcom.  And as understood by us, civil
society stands in some kind of a distinction vis a vis governments and
governance institutions on one hand, and private / business sector on the
other. This distinction for us is most valid from the point of view of the
principal political identity and representation a person brings in vis a vis
IG policies and advocacy, the arena of activity of this caucus.  

So responding to way you have proposed your volunteer-ship as 'from
Indonesia private sector' I must seek this clarification from you whether
you affirm yourself to be civil society person, and representing public
interest, and not private and/or business interests, individually or in
aggregation, in terms of your engagement with IG issues. 

I am sorry if this appears a bit complicated, and I am happy to give any
clarification on this list, or offlist, i.e. in response to an email send to
my id alone. 

Thanks and Regards

Parminder 

  _____  

From: rusdiah at rad.net.id [mailto:rusdiah at rad.net.id] 
Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:00 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; karen banks
Cc: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Rudi Vansnick
Subject: Rudi Rusdiah - APW - Indonesia [governance] NOMCOM - MAG 

I am willing to volunteer from Indonesia Private Sector (NGO) :

Rudi Rusdiah
Association of Community Internet Center - APWKomitel (Asosiasi Pengusaha
Warnet)
( http://www.apwkomitel.org , community mailing list:
apwkomitel at yahoogroups.com (3,000 members) )
Jakarta , Indonesia
GSM: +6281 677 4203
Fax: +6221 7507545

> hi
> 
> as per email parminder, i'm available for nomcom
> 
> karen
> 
> At 01:25 20/03/2008, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
>>I'm willing to serve in the nomcom.
>>
>>Rudi Vansnick
>>President - CEO Internet Society Belgium vzw
>>Board member ISOC-ECC Barcelona-Spain
>>EURALO board member
>>/Dendermondesteenweg 143 - B-9070 Destelbergen
>>Belgium
>>GSM: +32 (0)475 28 16 32
>>Tel: +32 (0)70 77 39 39/
>>http://www.isoc.be
>>
>>
>>Parminder schreef:
>>>
>>>Hi All
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I request urgent submission of names by those ready to volunteer
>>>for the noncom. We need 25 names to do a random selection of 5, and
>>>we have till now only a couple. Pl do it today, preferably.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>We need to have a nomcom as soon as possible.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Meanwhile the discussion on the issue of how and why of rotation
>>>can go on, and the nomcom can pick up the sense of the group from
>>>these discussions, and if they wish engage directly with the group
>>>for clarifications. Meanwhile, I will try to evoke discussions on
>>>key issues and information that are important for the nomcom to
>>>achieve its purpose.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Parminder

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