[governance] [process] Fwd: IGC Membership list

[Avri Doria]

hi,

As i said, i do not think the charter speak to it, so you can.  what i  
also said is that i believe this list cannot used for the sending of  
ballots without a change to the charter.  a ballot goes to anyone who  
is a subscriber to the list 2 months before any vote.

one does not need to subscribe to the charter to vote.  one only needs  
to be a CS IGC participant as defined in the charter.

i think from the discussions i have heard that some of our more active  
members do not do support the charter as they dislike certain  
features,  e.g. nomcom processes, so unless we change the charter, i  
think it would be unfair to ask them to support the charter in order  
to have their voting rights.

a.

On 29 Jun 2008, at 16:40, Parminder wrote:

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>> the charter says nothing about that - so he is free to do so whenever
>> he wishes in this respect - as long as his co-coordinator agrees.
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> Lets then first just go ahead and make this list as per the charter's
> conditions of membership.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri at psg.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:39 AM
>> To: Governance Caucus
>> Subject: Re: [governance] Fwd: IGC Membership list
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>> On 28 Jun 2008, at 10:43, William Drake wrote:
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>>> especially since we don't
>>> even seem to have a list of people who subscribed to it then.
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>> we do.  the coordinators of the caucus have the list of those who
>> voted in the charter vote and those who voted in the first election.
>> at least i think they do, i sent it to them in any case.
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>>> Parminder is simply asking who considers themselves to be in the
>>> caucus. I can't fathom how that violates the charter.   And if we
>>> cannot bring ourselves to say who is in a group, I don't think we
>>> should pretend that the group exists.
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>> there is nothing wrong with that.
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>> what i believe is counter the charter is that he will only sending
>> ballots to those who respond to this message.
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>> he could send out requests for people to sign the charter every  
>> month,
>> the charter says nothing about that - so he is free to do so whenever
>> he wishes in this respect - as long as his co-coordinator agrees.
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>> what it does say is that a ballot goes to every individual on the  
>> list
>> - and it is at the point of voting that they need to declare that at
>> that moment they see themselves as supporting the charter.
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>> i would argue that even having signed the charter before the vote,
>> does not obviate the need to indicate that by voting they are  
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>> to support it.  i mean it is possible that someone signs it one day
>> because they  they support what they understand it to say and then  
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>> next day find out it means something completely other then that and
>> find that they can no longer support it.  it could happen.
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