[governance] Issues concerning standing IGC members list-postal

[Jeffrey A. Williams]

Carlos and all,

  Surely you jest!?  I wouldn't hire Dibold to verify if I had a toilet
with three independent witnesses!  >:(

Carlos Afonso wrote:

> Besides, frankly, what are the grounds for believing this election might
> be rigged???
>
> It is curious, we are based on an informal arrangement of peers, but
> when it comes to deciding something by voting, we start having all
> concerns typical of a formally constituted congress or association???
>
> CGI.br has offered its secure online voting system on a voluntary basis.
> If there are questions even before anyone knows details of the system, I
> will be glad (or sad) to request CGI.br not to offer it (I do not want
> to cause absolutely any trouble to them), and let us go for a
> sophisticated one, perhaps hiring (!!!) Diebold?
>
> We lose a lot of time in silly parlance... :(
>
> --c.a.
>
> Ginger Paque wrote:
> > While I understand Yehuda's concern about a physical verification, I do not
> > think this situation requires a paper trail in this case, given the level of
> > difficulty of implementation (time and expense, deficiency of many delivery
> > systems) and the low level of likelihood of gross error. I support the
> > decision to carry out email only balloting in this case.
> >
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: Yehuda Katz [mailto:yehudakatz at mailinator.com]
> > Enviado el: Domingo, 27 de Julio de 2008 12:51 p.m.
> > Para: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Asunto: RE: RE: [governance] Issues concerning standing IGC members list
> >
> > In that case, I want to duly note that the request for Authenticate of the
> > Vote
> > by POSTAL means was denied, with my Objection.
> >
> > -
> >
> > Having witnessed several of these "On-line" IG-Governance type of elections,
> > Those being:
> > 1. Icann's At-large Elections [Wherein 64,000 voters were disenfranchised]
> > 2. Icann-at-Large Elections [.Org &.Com / Jeffsey & Joop sites respectively]
> > 3. ICANN ALAC Elections [Past]
> >
> > -
> >
> > In fairness to 'Your' argument please refer to this article:
> >
> > International Association for Cryptologic Research
> > Secure Online Elections in Practice
> > http://eprint.iacr.org/2008/157.pdf
> >
> > http://www.iacr.org/
> >
> > Wherein the examination of four (4) 'state-of-the-art' e-voting protocols
> > are
> > evaluated with a number of security objectives.
> >
> > -
> > Paraminder, does your system meet the criteria set forth by the IACR.Org?
> >
> > Again, I offer to offset the POSTAL cost of holding the Vote/Census.
> > Secondly, I propose that a POSTAL Census be taken on a 'once annually
> > basis'.
> > -
> >
> > P.S.:
> > Honestly I do not understand your objections, what? once a year you have to
> > send in a letter. Really is a little dedication to this matter, that much of
> > a
> > hassle.
> > I don't get it.
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