[governance] Issues concerning standing IGC members list-postal

[Carlos Afonso]

:) Me neither... :)

--c.a.

Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
> Carlos and all,
> 
>   Surely you jest!?  I wouldn't hire Dibold to verify if I had a toilet
> with three independent witnesses!  >:(
> 
> Carlos Afonso wrote:
> 
>> Besides, frankly, what are the grounds for believing this election might
>> be rigged???
>>
>> It is curious, we are based on an informal arrangement of peers, but
>> when it comes to deciding something by voting, we start having all
>> concerns typical of a formally constituted congress or association???
>>
>> CGI.br has offered its secure online voting system on a voluntary basis.
>> If there are questions even before anyone knows details of the system, I
>> will be glad (or sad) to request CGI.br not to offer it (I do not want
>> to cause absolutely any trouble to them), and let us go for a
>> sophisticated one, perhaps hiring (!!!) Diebold?
>>
>> We lose a lot of time in silly parlance... :(
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> Ginger Paque wrote:
>>> While I understand Yehuda's concern about a physical verification, I do not
>>> think this situation requires a paper trail in this case, given the level of
>>> difficulty of implementation (time and expense, deficiency of many delivery
>>> systems) and the low level of likelihood of gross error. I support the
>>> decision to carry out email only balloting in this case.
>>>
>>> -----Mensaje original-----
>>> De: Yehuda Katz [mailto:yehudakatz at mailinator.com]
>>> Enviado el: Domingo, 27 de Julio de 2008 12:51 p.m.
>>> Para: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>> Asunto: RE: RE: [governance] Issues concerning standing IGC members list
>>>
>>> In that case, I want to duly note that the request for Authenticate of the
>>> Vote
>>> by POSTAL means was denied, with my Objection.
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> Having witnessed several of these "On-line" IG-Governance type of elections,
>>> Those being:
>>> 1. Icann's At-large Elections [Wherein 64,000 voters were disenfranchised]
>>> 2. Icann-at-Large Elections [.Org &.Com / Jeffsey & Joop sites respectively]
>>> 3. ICANN ALAC Elections [Past]
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>> In fairness to 'Your' argument please refer to this article:
>>>
>>> International Association for Cryptologic Research
>>> Secure Online Elections in Practice
>>> http://eprint.iacr.org/2008/157.pdf
>>>
>>> http://www.iacr.org/
>>>
>>> Wherein the examination of four (4) 'state-of-the-art' e-voting protocols
>>> are
>>> evaluated with a number of security objectives.
>>>
>>> -
>>> Paraminder, does your system meet the criteria set forth by the IACR.Org?
>>>
>>> Again, I offer to offset the POSTAL cost of holding the Vote/Census.
>>> Secondly, I propose that a POSTAL Census be taken on a 'once annually
>>> basis'.
>>> -
>>>
>>> P.S.:
>>> Honestly I do not understand your objections, what? once a year you have to
>>> send in a letter. Really is a little dedication to this matter, that much of
>>> a
>>> hassle.
>>> I don't get it.
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