[PROCESS] Re: [governance] IGC members list

McTim dogwallah at gmail.com
Mon Jul 21 00:12:02 EDT 2008


2008/7/21 Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>:
>
> Adam
>
>> Parminder, Hi, this is very interesting.
>>
>> However, could you please draw up a ballot.
>
> I draw your attention to my email of 15th. To quote my email
>
> "I have every intention to uphold the charter, in the best possible manner,
> in the matter of voting process as well, reconciling any apparent
> contradiction as they may appear to different people. My proposal for this
> will be presented after the 17th when this round of membership list building
> will be completed."
>
> I also said
>
> "I am not intervening is this discussion on_the_issue_of_the_voting_process
> because, as I mentioned in an earlier email, some of these discussions have
> been confusing list participants a lot in terms of the primary task being
> done at this stage which is to prepare a members list as per the charter."
>
> So can you please just wait for my proposal on this and trust my word that I
> will "uphold the charter in the best possible manner".
>
> And it is not that in the meantime I am not doing some important caucus
> work. For you drawing up the members list as per the charter conditions may
> be merely 'very interesting' but I think it is a central organizational
> activity for the caucus. And it is not an easy task to keep track of all the
> emails I receive from around 120 members, seeking clarification, clarifying
> issues, building an appropriate list, opening it for comments before
> finalization etc. And I am doing all this as I am traveling.
>
>>>I will keep this list open for 2 more days, for anyone to comment on
>>>his or her exclusion or inclusion.
>
>>No, that's not your decision.
>
> What is not my decision?

To make pre-election list, the list of members is generated by the
election, not before, as the charter clearly states.

To keep a list open to corrections etc before
> announcing it as the standing IGC members list on the day?? How/ Why?
> And you would of course have read the next sentence in my email " The list,
> however, remains open for inclusion of new members at all times."

this is irrelevant.

>
>> Please read the charter and follow what it instructs you to do.
>
> Thanks for your advice. I do read the charter often.
>
> I also requested in my mail
>
> " For many reasons that I have argued a few times earlier, and will mention
> again in my email after the 17th, it will help us greatly at this stage if
> we see these two issues 'separately' - (1) the issue of preparing a members
> list as per the charter and (2) voting process for electing a new
> co-coordinator, also as per the charter."
>

The charter clearly says they inseparable:

"(i.e. a voter must affirm membership on the voter form in order to
vote). The decision to self-identify as a member of the IGC is a
personal decision based on the criteria defined. A list of the
self-defined member-voters will be published after the election with
the results of the election."

> You have the complete right to post whatever you wish anytime to the list
> but I must observe that this present email too does add to the confusion at
> the stage when some members are still in the process of confirming IGC
> membership, which I had requested to avoid.

It's you who are confused about this, in addition to the confusion,
it's just extra work you are creating for yourself.

-- 
Cheers,

McTim
mctim.blogspot.com
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