hyperbole and hypocrisy (was Re: [governance] Thank you to Parminder)

Nyangkwe Agien Aaron nyangkweagien at gmail.com
Mon Dec 29 09:27:56 EST 2008


McTim

You got it right!
Just sounds like McAnthony in Shakespeare's Play Julius Ceasar.

We overheard McAnthony saying in that play:
"*We have come to burry Julius Ceasar and not to praise him... The evil that
men do live after them*"
 It is just such MaAnthonyism that I decifer in Willie's piece.

Happy New year to all

Aaron

On 12/24/08, McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Willie,
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Willie Currie <wcurrie at apc.org> wrote:
> > I'd also like to thank Parminder for his commitment and hard work as IGC
> > coordinator.
> >
> > Parminder has played an important role for the IGC during a difficult
> period
> > of adjustment to a post-WSIS global policy space in internet governance,
> > when a sustained attempt to deflect attention from the need for global
> > public policy principles for managing critical internet resources
>
> There already ARE global public policy principles in place for this.....do
> you not recall seeing my BUTOCS (posting) earlier this year??
>
> was
> > underway as a backlash to the gains made in the WSIS. It is largely to
> > Parminder's credit that the issue of 'enhanced cooperation' could be
> > discussed in Hyderabad without the sky falling down.
>
> While Parminder should be acknowledged and thanked for his efforts
> and enthusiasm brought to the role, I would hardly equate him to Atlas ;-)
>
> Indeed a little more
> > attention to public policy principles at an earlier stage may have helped
> > the IPv4/6 transition as the IGF open policy dialogue on the matter
> > demonstrated.
>
> which principles would those have been?
>
> Like the banking system, I think we have been witnessing the
> > limits of the claims for technical expertise in the absence of suitable
> > policy and regulation in the public interest in this area.  And no one
> had
> > an adequate answer to Jeanette's question as to who is in charge?
>
> The answer is that no ONE person or body is or should be in charge.
> You all ought to know that.
>
> Parminder
> > suffered unjustifable attack while coordinator of the IGC when he did
> raise
> > questions of public policy. And I think the shambles around the IPv4/6
> > transition vindicates his concerns for public policy frameworks in
> internet
> > governance.
>
> The "shambles" as you put it is caused by network operators not
> implementing IPv6.  How would a "public policy framework" increase IPv6
> uptake?
>
> The question I'd like answered from folk who think they could have
> done a better
> job than the output of the IETF NG WG is "why weren't you more involved?"
>
> The old canard that the IETF is an unwelcoming group of white American
> engineers
> is not allowed as a valid answer.
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> http://stateoftheinternetin.ug
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