[governance] USG on ICANN - no movement here

Jeffrey A. Williams jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Tue Aug 5 19:44:19 EDT 2008


Ian and all,

  Yes this is an alternative, but one that currently and sense ICANN's
conception, one that puts the insane in charge of the asylum.  Not
a very palatable or viable alternative.

  Perhaps when users hold the majority of ICANN's Bod seats,
this alternative will become much more viable.  But the GNSO
structure will need drastic changes to reflect such.  Currently,
and under the most recent proposed GNSO structure revision,
that is not the case.  I and most users or users-domain name
holders are neither adequately represented on ICANN's Bod,
nor do same approve of the IPC's behavior and influence
on the ICANN Bod.

Ian Peter wrote:

> Or alternatively, as McTim suggests, no authorisation structure.
>
> Or what about an ICANN MOU with the UN as a first step? That appeals to me
> as something that might get traction at both ends and we could support.
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Peter [mailto:ian.peter at ianpeter.com]
> > Sent: 06 August 2008 16:51
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'William Drake'
> > Subject: RE: [governance] USG on ICANN - no movement here
> >
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > >
> > > > Might help shift the debate a little if for the next review NTIA were
> > to
> > > > hear a LOT more from proponents of change, including a fleshed out and
> > > > plausible scenario as to how independence would work geopolitically,
> > why
> > > > there'd be no real risk of "takeover by foreign governments," how we
> > > could
> > > > have rock solid guarantees of exactly the same levels of security,
> > > > stability, and control in the last instance as now.   Something that
> > > would
> > > > make ITAA, DOD, et al say, hmmm...I don't think this has been done yet
> > > > either by ICANN or others, so expecting a leap of faith in the beltway
> > > seems
> > > > ill-advised.  Those are reserved for other issues...
> > >
> > > If enough people here believe this is a top priority, maybe the caucus
> > > could
> > > try to do something productive for a change and develop a compelling
> > > alternative and promote it in a manner that is politically salient.
> > Then
> > > maybe Milton would have a better chance of winning his $50 bet with me
> > as
> > > to
> > > whether an Obama administration (inshallah) would do something in 9/09.
> > >
> > The assumption here is that a compelling argument to DOC is advanced and
> > they suddenly change their mind. That might work. Another possibility is
> > for
> > ICANN to move offshore, restructure, set up an alternative authorisation
> > structure with the UN, create another A root, and then the emperor has no
> > clothes. Not hard to do if the will exists and ICANN really wants change.
> >
> > (you might say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.....)
> >
> > Ian Peter
> >
> >
> >
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