[governance] beijing ticket scam - is this governed at all?

[Adam Peake]

John, Hi.

Some of these issues were raised by APWG at the Paris ICANN meeting, 
at least in a presentation to the cross constituency meeting (the 
business groups of the GNSO) 
<http://james.seng.sg/2008/07/14/anti-phishing-in-hong-kong/>

I think it would be interesting if you (perhaps with APWG) could 
write up the problem and possible solutions (with those solutions 
associated problems) and send it to the secretariat <igf at unog.ch> 
before August 15 suggesting it as an issue to be considered during 
the main session "Fostering Security Privacy and Openness" (the title 
may not seem appropriate, but I think it's an OK fit with the intent 
of the session.)

About the Beijing problem -- odd the Olympic organization's IP 
lawyers didn't have it taken down.  They seem to think they own all 
uses of Olympic and I thought we're pretty aggressive.

Adam



At 1:42 PM +0000 8/4/08, John Levine wrote:
>  >Very interested in analysis of why this is so when it is a known
>>major fraud site that has victims in many countries. Is there any
>>mechanism to stop major international scams?
>
>Sort of, keeping in mind that this particular example is a minor scam,
>not a major one.
>
>There are probably several dozen scam sites like that set up every
>day.  There are two interrelated problems -- one is that it's common
>for the registrar to be in one country, the web site in a second, and
>the mail servers sending promotional spam to be in yet a third through
>50th.  The other is that there's a great deal of finger pointing.  Is
>the responsible party the registrar, eNom in this case?  The hosting
>company where the web site is located, Servepath?  The office-in-a-box
>in Arizona that's listed as their address?  All of the above?  MAAWG
>and the APWG have been working on setting up semi-formal contact
>systems to get registrars and hosters to take down bogus sites, but
>they can't just do a takedown on every random complaint, or else they
>get grief like Godaddy for turning off legitimate sites who have
>annoyed someone.
>
>This would be an excellent area for some governance guidelines.  Too
>bad we're too busy deciding what font the ballots should be printed
>in.
>
>R's,
>John
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