[governance] beijing ticket scam - is this governed at all?

[William Drake]

Hi,

This example resonates nicely with the thrust of the transboundary workshop
IGC has proposed for Hyderabad.  It's not obvious that any of the existing
multilateral frameworks on cybercrime, e-commerce, consumer protection and
such that deal with jurisdictional matters provides all that much guidance
on multi-territoriality problems.  Would be curious what sort of 'governance
guidelines' John or others might envision....

Best,

Bill


On 8/4/08 3:42 PM, "John Levine" <icggov at johnlevine.com> wrote:

>> Very interested in analysis of why this is so when it is a known
>> major fraud site that has victims in many countries. Is there any
>> mechanism to stop major international scams?
> 
> Sort of, keeping in mind that this particular example is a minor scam,
> not a major one.
> 
> There are probably several dozen scam sites like that set up every
> day.  There are two interrelated problems -- one is that it's common
> for the registrar to be in one country, the web site in a second, and
> the mail servers sending promotional spam to be in yet a third through
> 50th.  The other is that there's a great deal of finger pointing.  Is
> the responsible party the registrar, eNom in this case?  The hosting
> company where the web site is located, Servepath?  The office-in-a-box
> in Arizona that's listed as their address?  All of the above?  MAAWG
> and the APWG have been working on setting up semi-formal contact
> systems to get registrars and hosters to take down bogus sites, but
> they can't just do a takedown on every random complaint, or else they
> get grief like Godaddy for turning off legitimate sites who have
> annoyed someone.
> 
> This would be an excellent area for some governance guidelines.  Too
> bad we're too busy deciding what font the ballots should be printed
> in.
> 
> R's,
> John


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