[governance] IGF workshops-Rights To/On the Internet
karen banks
karenb at gn.apc.org
Wed Apr 30 04:43:10 EDT 2008
hi meryem and all
thanks michael for taking the proposal through the caucus concensus process..
as michael noted, i was in a two day meeting all
day/night - which was pretty relevant to what
we're talking about here.. the freedom of
expression initiative - which is developing a
principle/value framework rooted in human
rights (primarily article19, but others) - lisa
horner, who works with global partners, the
organisation leading the process, was involved in the workshop discussions
http://www.freedomofexpression.org.uk/
we missed your input and experience meryem, so
hope you will have time to comment once we get past today's deadlines..
karen
At 17:49 29/04/2008, Meryem Marzouki wrote:
>Michael,
>
>this is to answer your mail below and the message you sent earlier on
>this issue.
>I've made clear that I won't oppose that IGC propose this workshop,
>and moreover I've made clear that this is because I haven't been able
>to take to the discussions in due time.
>
>So you can count my comments as a "yes", or as an abstention, but
>certainly not as a "no".
>
>I simply made these comments not to reopen any discussion *now*, but
>in view of possible further refinements of the proposal, after its
>submission.
>As a matter of fact, I note from your new subject line that you seem
>to also think there is a difference between "rights to" and "rights
>on" the Internet. What I was saying is that the
>current formulation/ framing was mixing both,
>and, in my opinion, this is inappropriate
>and counterproductive.
>
>I'll be happy to join dicussions, after submission deadline, on
>refining this proposal.
>
>Best,
>Meryem
>
>Le 29 avr. 08 à 18:39, Michael Gurstein a écrit :
>
>>
>>Karen, my co-convenor on the "Rights" Workshop is travelling I
>>think, at the
>>moment...
>>
>>In my earlier note in this thread I didn't mean to imply that the
>>formulation of the "Rights" Workshop was not a work in progress where
>>additional inputs would not be welcomed but rather that it was a
>>bit late to
>>re-open the discussion prior to the April 30 deadline.
>>
>>So far, contributors to the consensus on the current formulation of
>>the
>>Workshop (apart from Karen/APC, Parminder and myself) have included
>>Max
>>Senges, Konstantinos Komaitis, Robert Guerra, Max Senges, Robin
>>Gross, Lisa
>>Horner, vittorio Bertola and linda misek-falkoff. (apologies if
>>I've missed
>>anyone).
>>
>>Certainly more contributors are welcomed and we can either continue
>>with a
>>thread on the full list or, as we did earlier develop an inclusive
>>side
>>discussion.
>>
>>MG
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu]
>>Sent: April 29, 2008 8:52 AM
>>To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
>>Cc: Parminder
>>Subject: Re: [governance] IGF workshops
>>
>>
>>A yes to all 4 workshop proposals from me as well.
>>I hope though that the one on rights will be revised after the
>>submission.
>>jeanette
>>
>>shaila mistry wrote:
>>>"Yes" to all four workshops
>>>Shaila Rao Mistry
>>>
>>>*/Parminder <parminder at itforchange.net>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Please find enclosed the full text of four workshop proposals,
>>>that
>>IGC
>>> proposes to sponsor at the IGF, Hyderabad.
>>>
>>> 1. The Transboundary Internet: Jurisdiction, Control and
>>>Sovereignty
>>>
>>> 2. The Future of ICANN: After the JPA, What?
>>>
>>> 3. A Rights Agenda for Internet Governance
>>>
>>> 4. The role and mandate of the IGF
>>>
>>>
>>> These are being put for a 48 hour consensus process. If a
>>>consensus or
>>a
>>> rough consensus is made out, these proposals will be submitted to
>>> the IGF
>>> secretariat on the 30th, around 5 PM GMT.
>>>
>>> Please indicate a clear 'yes' or 'no' for forwarding these
>>>proposals,
>>as
>>> they stand...
>>>
>>> While additional comments justifying a yes or no vote may be
>>>made,
>>they
>>> should follow a clear unqualified 'yes' or 'no'.
>>>
>>> In fact such additional comments are welcome especially in
>>>case of a
>>> 'no'
>>> vote, because it helps calling a possible rough consensus,
>>>taking into
>>> consideration the nature and the extent of dissent.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Parminder
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>>> From: "Bret Fausett" <bfausett at internet.law.pro>
>>> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>>> Subject: [governance] Workshop Proposal: Transboundary Internet
>>> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:57:53 +0530
>>>
>>> All, below is a draft workshop proposal that Meryem Marzouki,
>>>William
>>> Drake, Ian Peter, Parminder Singh and I have been working on.
>>>We plan
>>> to submit it by the deadline, but would like your input and
>>> suggestions, on all aspects.
>>> -- Bret
>>> - - - - - D R A F T - - - - -
>>> 1. Name of proposed workshop
>>> The Transboundary Internet: Jurisdiction, Control and Sovereignty
>>> 2. Provide a concise description of the proposed workshop
>>>theme
>>> including its importance and relevance to the IGF.
>>> The Internet crosses the boundaries of all nations and raises
>>>some
>>> unique transboundary jurisdictional problems. The recent case
>>>of a
>>> British citizen living in Spain, with Internet servers in the
>>>Bahamas,
>>
>>> selling holidays to Cuba, and having his domain name impounded
>>>by a
>>> registrar located in the USA because it appeared to break the US
>>> embargo against Cuba is one recent case in point. Another
>>>landmark
>>> case was the French-US Yahoo! case in 1999 dealing with sale
>>>of nazi
>>> memorabilia, but but apart from these high profile content
>>>cases there
>>
>>> are many examples in other areas such as privacy, consumer
>>>issues,
>>> cybercrime, and intellectual property.
>>> This workshop will discuss the many implications of competing
>>>national
>>
>>> jurisdictions being projected into a globalized space where
>>>multiple
>>> normative sources apply, such as political, legal, technical,
>>> contractual, and behavioral regulations. Through practical case
>>> studies, this workshop will look at the implications of various
>>> approaches to resolving these issues and the implications for
>>>Internet
>>
>>> governance, international law, national sovereignty,
>>>democracy, and
>>> human rights and fundamental freedoms.
>>> The workshop also explores the implications for Internet
>>>governance
>>> where no structures are in place to deal with emerging issues,
>>>and how
>>
>>> default unilateral action in the absence of structural
>>>alternatives
>>> can lead to de facto Internet governance.
>>> 3. Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists
>>>you are
>>> planning to invite. Describe the main actors in the field and
>>>whether
>>> you have approached them about their willingness to
>>>participate in
>>> proposed workshop.
>>> NB. Workshop duration is 90mn, which means that we should have
>>>no more
>>
>>> than 6-7 panelists plus chair. This is a tentative list of
>>>speakers.
>>> Maud de Boer-Buquicchio, Deputy Secretary General, The
>>> Council of
>>> Europe
>>> Manon Ress /James Love, Knowledge Ecology
>>> International/CPTech, USA
>>> Meryem Marzouki, President, European Digital Rights,
>>>Europe
>>> Bret A. Fausett, Internet law Attorney, Cathcart,
>>>Collins &
>>> Kneafsey, LLP USA
>>> Ian Peter, Internet Analyst, Ian Peter and Associates,
>>> Australia
>>> William Drake, Graduate Institute of International and
>>> Development
>>> Studies, Switzerland
>>> Yet to be approached: other identified experts with various
>>> perspectives on specific case studies.
>>> Themes to be discussed by speakers:
>>> Liability and the principle of the country of origin
>>> (off-line and
>>> on-line content): Convention on Transfrontier television, Rome
>>>II,
>>> Convention on TV without Frontiers,
>>> Consumer protection, contracts, etc.: Hague Convention,
>>> E-commerce
>>> directive
>>> Cybercrime: The CoE Convention, its protocols and
>>> implementation
>>> activities
>>> Technical and contractual means: ISP charters and
>>>hotlines,
>>> blocking
>>> (cf. Pakistan case)
>>> Harmonization of national laws through intergovernmental
>>> agreements
>>> 4. Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop
>>>and their
>>
>>> affiliation to various stakeholder groups. Describe how you
>>>will take
>>> steps to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, geographical
>>> diversity and gender balance.
>>> - The Civil Society Internet Governance Caucus (Civil
>>>society)
>>> - The Council of Europe TBC (Intergovernmental
>>>organization)
>>> - European Digital Rights (Civil society)
>>> - Knowledge Ecology International (KEI/CPTech) TBC (Civil
>>> society)
>>> - Ian Peter and Associates TBC (Private sector)
>>> Yet to be approached: Some governments (e.g. France, USA,
>>> Netherlands, ...); other intergovernmental organizations (e.g.
>>>OSCE,
>>> OCDE,...), other private sector constituencies (e.g. ISP
>>>associations,
>>
>>> newspaper associations, registrars, search engine/social
>>>networking
>>> companies, ...); other civil society constituencies.
>>> 5. Does the proposed workshop provide different
>>>perspectives on
>>> the
>>> issues under discussion?
>>> Yes. Expertise is being sought from various areas to provide a
>>> comprehensive coverage of issues and perspectives involved (to be
>>> updated later).
>>> 6. Please explain how the workshop will address issues
>>>relating
>>> to
>>> Internet governance and describe how the workshop conforms
>>>with the
>>> Tunis Agenda in terms of substance and the mandate of the IGF.
>>> The first and foremost need for global Internet governance
>>> arrangements comes from the global, cross-boundaries nature of
>>>the
>>> Internet. Issues with global Internet governance are not only
>>>related
>>> to critical Internet resources management, but also to the
>>>circulation
>>
>>> of content and data and to the protection of the general
>>> communications infrastructure. Jurisdictions, control and
>>>sovereignty
>>> issues are thus at the heart of global Internet governance
>>> discussions. Given the difficulty to harmonize national
>>>legislations,
>>> and given the issue of the competence of jurisdictions,
>>>alternative
>>> methods to State regulations are more and more considered,
>>>promoted
>>> and implemented. It is the very aim of this workshop to
>>>explore and
>>> discuss these alternatives.
>>> TA: Para 72(b)(c)(g)(i)(k)
>>> 7. List similar events you and/or any other IGF workshops
>>>you
>>> have
>>> organized in the past.
>>> The Civil,Society Internet Governance Caucus and other
>>>sponsors have
>>> organized workshops at previous IGF meetings (to be updated
>>>later)
>>> 8. Were you part of organizing a workshop last year?
>>>Which one?
>>> Did
>>> you submit a workshop report?
>>> Yes (to be updated with list of previous workshops)
>>> 9. Under which of the five IGF themes does the proposal fall
>>> under ?
>>> Managing the Internet (Using the Internet)
>>> Arrangements for Internet governance
>>> - - - - - D R A F T - - - - -
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>>> From: "Milton L Mueller" <mueller at syr.edu>
>>> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>>> Subject: [governance] Internationalization Workshop
>>> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:42:02 +0530
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is the proposal as it now stands. Note that after two
>>>requests we
>>> are still waiting for volunteers/interested parties from this
>>>list.
>>> 1. Name of proposed workshop
>>> The Future of ICANN: After the JPA, What?
>>>
>>> 2. Provide a concise description of the proposed workshop theme
>>> including its importance and relevance to the IGF.
>>> ICANN, which coordinates and sets policy for the global domain
>>>name
>>> system (DNS) and IP addressing, is linked to the US Government
>>> through a
>>> Joint Project Agreement (JPA) that expires in September 2009.
>>>The JPA
>>> and its renewal process provides what, during WSIS, became
>>>known as
>>> "political oversight" over ICANN. The US government says that
>>>it is
>>> committed to "completing the transition" to private sector
>>coordination
>>> of the Domain Name System, which implies an expiration of the
>>>JPA.
>>> During the recent mid-term review, ICANN made it clear that it
>>>also
>>> strongly supports an end to the JPA. ICANN's call was
>>>supported by
>>some
>>> stakeholders, but others expressed concerns about ensuring its
>>> accountability without some kind of governmental oversight.
>>> This panel is designed to provide a careful and balanced
>>>exploration
>>of
>>> whether ICANN is ready to be free of US government oversight,
>>>and if
>>so
>>> what kind of external oversight - if any - should replace it.
>>Panelists
>>> will be encouraged to provide specific models for ICANN's
>>>status and
>>> various oversight models and offer practical suggestions on
>>>how to
>>make
>>> changes in the current situation. Advocates of retaining the
>>>status
>>quo
>>> will also be represented.
>>>
>>> 3. Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are
>>> planning
>>> to invite. Describe the main actors in the field and whether
>>>you have
>>> you approached them about their willingness to participate in
>>>proposed
>>> workshop.
>>>
>>> ICANN: Peter Dengate Thrush
>>> IGP: Milton Mueller
>>> Dr. Vladimir V. Sokolov, Moscow State University, Deputy
>>>Director,
>>> International Institute for
>>> Government of Canada
>>> Michael Palage, Attorney and former ICANN Board member
>>> Nashwa Abdel Baki, Egyptian Universities Network (EUN)
>>> <civil society representative selected by IGC>
>>> Internet Society - either Stefano Trumpy or Lynn St. Amour
>>> Milton Mueller
>>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
>>> XS4All Professor, Delft University of Technology
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Internet Governance Project:
>>> http://internetgovernance.org
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>>> From: "karen banks" <karenb at gn.apc.org>
>>> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>>> Subject: [governance] IGC workshop: A rights agenda for Internet
>>> Governance
>>> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:41:15 +0530
>>>
>>> Dear all
>>>
>>> A working group comprised of the following folk have worked
>>>hard to
>>> draft a proposal on:
>>>
>>> A rights agenda for internet goernance
>>>
>>> The working group included : Michael Gurstein, Parminder Jeet
>>> Singh, Lisa Horner, Konstantinos Komaitis, Vittorio Bertola,
>>>Robin
>>> Gross, Robert Guerra, rafik dammak, linda misek-falkoff and
>>>myself.
>>> I believe posts were also shared from time to time with the
>>>bill or
>>> rights coalition. (colleagues - please clarify any omissions i
>>>may
>>> have made in that list..)
>>>
>>> It was a very interesting drafting process, and we fully realise
>>> that this is a complex and challenging topic to bring to the IGF
>>> Table - but we are convinced that it is not only relevant to
>>>the IGF
>>> Mandate, but central to the mandate and the long term impact
>>>of the
>>> IGF process.
>>>
>>> Please review the attached draft - we look forward to your
>>>comments
>>> in relation to
>>>
>>> - the substantive sections (q2 and q6)
>>> - ideas for panellists and main actors in the field (q3)
>>> - ideas for 2 or 3 additional co-sponsors (q4)
>>> - your thoughts on which theme(s) the proposal best fits with - i
>>> would say it's an 'missing' crosscut ;)
>>>
>>> we'll take a round of comments til end monday (april 28th) and
>>>take
>>> it from there..
>>>
>>> thanks everyone
>>>
>>> karen (for michael, parminder and the working group)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: "Jeremy Malcolm" <Jeremy at Malcolm.id.au>
>>> To: <governance at lists.cpsr.org>
>>> Subject: [governance] Workshop proposal: The Role and Mandate
>>>of the
>>IGF
>>> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:48:37 +0530
>>>
>>> A small working group comprising Lee McKnight, Karen Banks,
>>>Baudouin
>>> Schombe and myself was recently convened by Parminder to work
>>>on a
>>> proposal for a workshop for Hyderabad on "The Role and Mandate
>>>of the
>>> IGF".
>>> Whilst not everyone in the working group has had the time to
>>>consider
>>> this text (which myself, Baudouin and Parminder contributed
>>>to), it is
>>
>>> presented now due to pressure of time, since the approval of the
>>> caucus is required before 30 April.
>>> Please send comments on the draft proposal to the list as soon as
>>> possible. Thank you!
>>> --- begins ---
>>> Title of the Workshop: 'The role and mandate of the IGF'
>>> Civil Society Internet Caucus held a workshop on the same
>>>theme, 'The
>>> role and mandate of the IGF', at IGF, Rio. A report of this first
>>> workshop is found athttp://intgovforum.org/Rio_event_report.php?
>>> mem=30. It was driven by an identification of a need for
>>>regular self-
>>> appraisal of the IGF vis-à-vis its mandated role. Such a
>>>periodic
>>> review is also required by the Tunis Agenda (paragraph 73 b).
>>> Consequently, the caucus proposes to hold a workshop with the
>>>same
>>> title during IGF, Hyderabad.
>>> The role and mandate of the Internet Governance Forum were set
>>>out in
>>> general terms at the World Summit on the Information Society,
>>> particularly in paragraph 72 of the Tunis Agenda. However
>>>since the
>>> conclusion of the World Summit, various interpretations of this
>>> general statement of the IGF's role and mandate have been put
>>>forward
>>> and continue to be debated amongst its stakeholders. Some
>>>believe
>>> that there are elements of the IGF's mandate that have been
>>>overlooked
>>
>>> or minimised in its operation to date. Others maintain, to the
>>> contrary, that the IGF must contain the overreaching ambitions of
>>> those who would transform it from a non-binding forum for
>>>discussion
>>> into something more.
>>> Since IGF, Hyderabad, represents the midpoint in the initial 5
>>>year
>>> term of the IGF after which the whole IGF process is sought to be
>>> reviewed. It will be pertinent at this midpoint to
>>> (1) review how the IGF has fared till now vis-à-vis its TA
>>> mandate, and whether any structure and/or substance
>>>corrections are
>>> needed for the remaining part of its initial 5 year mandate
>>> (2) what are the emerging views on post-2010
>>>arrangements for
>>> the IGF, if one is at all needed.
>>> There has been unmistakable improvements in the IGF format and
>>> substance since its first meeting whether it has been to include
>>> topics earlier considered too controversial (CIRs for Rio) or
>>>more
>>> focused discussions on specific issues (as per tentative
>>>program for
>>> Hyderabad). The directions of these changes vis-à-vis
>>>fulfillment of
>>> the mandate of the IGF may also be an important issue of
>>>discussion.
>>> Since paragraph 73 also speaks about a decentralized
>>>structure it
>>> will also be worth exploring how can the IGF be decentralized
>>>beyond
>>> the present structure of a single annual event, perhaps by
>>>exploring
>>> IGF like structures at the regional and national levels (which
>>>will
>>> inter aliafulfill part of the requirements of paragraph 80) and
>>> working group working on important issues contributing to the
>>> proceedings of the annual event.
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Malcolm LLB (Hons) B Com
>>> Internet and Open Source lawyer, IT consultant, actor
>>> host -t NAPTR 1.0.8.0.3.1.2.9.8.1.6.e164.org|awk -F! '{print $3}'
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>>>**be as a well......sure and limitless....
>>>but as time befits.....assume other forms .... ***
>>>**
>>>**
>>>*
>>>
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