[governance] coordinator elections

[Avri Doria]

On 24 Apr 2008, at 02:13, Parminder wrote:

>>
>> that membership is up to each of the individual participants
>
> You again seem to make the distinction between member and  
> participant, which
> I used to develop my logic in the last email, in interpreting the  
> charter.

yes. it seems to me the concept of membership matters when we do  
official caucus stuff - like vote.  or make nomcoms. or act as  
coordinators ...

>> with no
>> need for any declaration except for when doing things like voting.
>
>
> I also asked it at the time of voting only, and for the purpose of  
> voting.

then we are in agreement?

> Still cant understand why we wrote that line in membership clause '  
> who
> subscribe to the charter of the caucus'.

i see no problem with including a statement about supporting the  
charter in the ballot as well as self describing as CS.  is this all  
you were asking for.  i misunderstood.  i thought you wanted some sort  
of prior assertion of support for the charter as a prerequisite for  
receiving a ballot. whereas i think that the act of filling out the  
ballot is the assertion and the words included on the ballot are just  
a reminder of what it means to vote; ie. that you are CS and support  
the charter of the IGC..

> In this spirit I expect to soon
> hear that all that lofty stuff in vision and mission, and objectives  
> is also
> as meaningless.

ok:  i wonder, does signing a statement saying you support lofty stuff  
in vision and mission really mean anything?   and even if it does mean  
something personally, why do you think that other people's  
interpretations of what the lofty stuff means bears any resemblance to  
what you think it means or what i think it means?


> There is no group upholding any special collective vision
> and values and seeking to organize to do some specific set of  
> activities in
> direction of certain goals. Well..


i think the stuff the caucus does or doesn't do is what matters.  and  
after one looks back at the product of the IGC one will be able to see  
if those lofty vision words meant something and what they actually  
meant.

a.

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