FW: [governance] coordinator elections

Tue Apr 22 12:35:51 EDT 2008

I am posting below a process I mentioned for preparing the voters list for
the co-coordinator election. I received only one (positive) response. 

By end of tomorrow I expect anytime to start the process of sending these
emails for confirming membership.

If anyone has any comments, pl give provide them now. Thanks.

Parminder 

(from my email below)

> So, what I now propose for the coordinator elections to send an email to
> all
> those on the IGC since exactly 2 months from with something like
> 
> "This is to prepare a voting list for the election of co-coordinator of
> IGC.
> The charter of the IGC at
> http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html lays down that the
> membership of IG consists of those who have endorsed the IGC charter. If
> you
> endorse the IGC charter pleas cut paste the following lines and reply to
> this email.
> 
> "I have read the IGC charter at .... and endorse it". With your full name
> appended to this.
> 
> We will prepare a voting list of all who reply in say 10 days, and a
> ballot
> will be sent to all of them and they given a week to vote.
> 
> As you know we have two candidates, David Goldstein and Ian Peter.
> 
> Please comment within the next 4 days if this process is fine with you.
> Also
> give your suggestions etc. Avri has offered to help me with this process,
> and we will commence it sometime next week.
> 
> Parminder

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 2:36 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; 'Kleinwächter, Wolfgang'; 'Jeanette
> Hofmann'
> Subject: [governance] coordinator elections
> 
> 
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> As a practice we shd and follow the principle that old appointments stay
> till new ones are in place. There are admin problems, and associated
> problems of adequate dynamism of the group, which does delay appointments.
> But we are in a formative period and should accept this looseness/
> flexibility to the extent this in inevitable.
> 
> So, Vittorio is still a co-coordinator, though I can understand his
> reluctance of doing much beyond an announced period of end of coordinator
> ship which thought the charter says should end around June, we find it
> more
> convenient to end it with the annual IGF (though never formally decided,
> so
> open to comments).
> 
> The main problem with voting for new coordinator to replace Vittorio has
> been (1) non availability of online voting system used the last time,
> which
> now has been solved (2) the problem, which I have tried to discuss here
> earlier, of who is qualified as a voter.
> 
> The IGC charter says membership consists of those who have endorsed the
> charter. Now, we have a list of those who voted in the charter vote, but
> still not the names of those 3 who voted against the charter at that time.
> So we really do not have the list of charter endorsees. Those who would
> have
> joined IGC later may never have considered the option, may not know if it,
> of endorsing the charter.
> 
> Though in the case of a few scores who joined after I sent out an invite
> earlier this year, I clearly asked them about charter endorsement, and we
> have a separate list of those among them who have endorsed the charter.
> But
> they all in any case are still not eligible to vote.
> 
> As for the situation with the last elections, I quote my email of 24th
> March, also enclosed, where I had solicited members views on the voting
> rights issue.
> 
> "The ballot for the co-coordinator election of 2006 carried a proviso that
> "by voting you affirm that you consider yourself a Civil Society
> participant
> of the Internet Governance Caucus""
> 
> "I am trying to obtain the full list of those who voted in this election.
> However I still wonder if an affirmation, that too only by implication and
> not as a forthright statement, of being a 'CS participant of IGC' itself
> can
> mean that one has endorsed the charter. It is likely that someone who does
> enter into discussion on the list, but does not mean to endorse the
> charter
> can say yes to this proviso and proceed to vote. And not be dishonest or
> untruthful in doing so."
> 
> (ends)
> 
> So, what I now propose for the coordinator elections to send an email to
> all
> those on the IGC since exactly 2 months from with something like
> 
> "This is to prepare a voting list for the election of co-coordinator of
> IGC.
> The charter of the IGC at
> http://www.igcaucus.org/IGC-charter_final-061014.html lays down that the
> membership of IG consists of those who have endorsed the IGC charter. If
> you
> endorse the IGC charter pleas cut paste the following lines and reply to
> this email.
> 
> "I have read the IGC charter at .... and endorse it". With your full name
> appended to this.
> 
> We will prepare a voting list of all who reply in say 10 days, and a
> ballot
> will be sent to all of them and they given a week to vote.
> 
> As you know we have two candidates, David Goldstein and Ian Peter.
> 
> Please comment within the next 4 days if this process is fine with you.
> Also
> give your suggestions etc. Avri has offered to help me with this process,
> and we will commence it sometime next week.
> 
> Parminder
> 
> Avri - on your email on appeals committee, we will put one together after
> this election, but as I said till a new one comes in we still go to the
> old
> one for all purposes, including coordinator recall, and that it stays
> live.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
> > [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de]
> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:54 PM
> > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Parminder; Jeanette Hofmann;
> > governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Subject: AW: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
> >
> > BTW, if I remember correctly, we always had to co-chairs: YJ and me,
> > Jenatte and Adama. And we had Parminder and Vittorio. Did Vittorio
> resign
> > officially?
> >
> > wolfgang
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Von: Parminder [mailto:parminder at itforchange.net]
> > Gesendet: Mo 14.04.2008 19:45
> > An: 'Jeanette Hofmann'; governance at lists.cpsr.org
> > Betreff: RE: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Since this list has been extraordinary belligerent from day one,
> > > wouldn't agree on any other chair either, in fact had problems finding
> > > people volunteering for this job, we should stop this discussion and
> > > hope that those who are willing to coordinate this huddle don't run
> > > away. Amen.
> >
> > Hi Jeanette
> >
> > That's rather ungratifying a reason for keeping me a coordinator :). On
> > the
> > other hand, I can assure you I am nowhere close to running away.
> Parminder
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeanette Hofmann [mailto:jeanette at wzb.eu]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:08 PM
> > > To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; McTim
> > > Cc: Milton L Mueller; Suresh Ramasubramanian
> > > Subject: Re: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
> > >
> > > Since this list has been extraordinary belligerent from day one,
> > > wouldn't agree on any other chair either, in fact had problems finding
> > > people volunteering for this job, we should stop this discussion and
> > > hope that those who are willing to coordinate this huddle don't run
> > > away. Amen.
> > >
> > > McTim wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  > -----Original Message-----
> > > >>  > From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh at hserus.net]
> > > >>  > disrespect to his CS credentials, or his excellent work in IT
> For
> > > >>  Change,
> > > >>  > he recuse himself from his role as coordinator, and coordination
> > be
> > > >>  taken
> > > >>  > over by Bill Drake, Adam, Meryem, Jeanette Hoffman or some
> others
> > on
> > > >>  the
> > > >>  > list.
> > > >>
> > > >>  I'm not sure whether this was a serious suggestion, but if so it
> is
> > > >>  highly inappropriate for you to try to leverage minor quibbles
> over
> > a
> > > >>  workshop into a coup. Parminder is our elected coordinator and
> shall
> > > >>  remain so until we have another election.
> > > >
> > > > Or a recall (according to the charter).
> > > >
> > > >
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