Right to keep Parminder as coordinator (and right to work on IGC workshops) Re: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet

[Suresh Ramasubramanian]

Hi

I am not using you as much as suggesting you as an alternative candidate to
coordinate this process.  As I suggested various others who I think could do
a better job than Parminder has done so far.

This is not a campaign against Parminder, and I personally have no ax to
grind here, beyond an absolutely academic interest in seeing if we cant
actually get consensus here

Given at least two different people accusing him of bad faith in
discussions, I had some doubts, and I expressed them.

If you think Parminder would be the right candidate for this and can get
consensus, that's great. And I sincerely hope that's the case.

Hyderabad doesn’t have caipirinhas, but Kingfisher beer is a fairly
reasonable lager and I will be glad to buy you one (it goes down very well
with biryani - rice + meat)

	srs

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Meryem Marzouki [mailto:marzouki at ras.eu.org]
> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 9:51 PM
> To: governance at lists.cpsr.org
> Subject: Right to keep Parminder as coordinator (and right to work on
> IGC workshops) Re: [governance] rights based approach to the Internet
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Thanks to my interest in caipirinhas (I make the best ones in town,
> even in a Brazilian town..), I've read Carlos's message and have thus
> been alerted of this message from Suresh below, in a thread I
> promised myself to read later, when I would have time.
> 
> Could you please Suresh not use us - or at least me - against
> Parminder or anyone else here? Thanks.
> Parminder has the right to argue in any substantive discussion, and
> has proven at many occasion, that his substantive positions doesn't
> prevent him to be the perfect coordinator that we need. Last
> occasion, when preparing IGC statement to the IGF consultation of
> February, I really admired his capacities to handle this, and if I
> well remember, he was commended by many people for this.
> 
> So, let's stop this.
> And let's concentrate first on defining the workshop where we have
> consensus. Other workshops will be organized by other sponsors: the
> IGC is not going to convene all IGF workshops!
> 
> Just in case some people haven't understood: we're trying to identify
> workshop themes, not running the workshop discussions themselves:)
> 
> Best,
> Meryem
> 
> Le 14 avr. 08 à 16:00, Suresh Ramasubramanian a écrit :
> 
> > McTim [14/04/08 16:51 +0300]:
> >> This is not even a bad caricature of what I have been expounding,
> >> it's
> >> a plain falsehood.
> >>
> >> I DO tell you to trim your mails, but you never do.
> >>
> >> As Bill said, not interested in spending time on conversations not
> >> conducted in good faith.
> >
> > I dont know about bad faith but there is a definite communication
> > gap here,
> > and it is perhaps compounded by Parminder not being very aware of
> > technical
> > PDP issues.
> >
> > I would suggest that - entirely in the interest of consensus and
> > meaning no
> > disrespect to his CS credentials, or his excellent work in IT For
> > Change,
> > he recuse himself from his role as coordinator, and coordination be
> > taken
> > over by Bill Drake, Adam, Meryem, Jeanette Hoffman or some others
> > on the
> > list.
> >
> > suresh
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