[governance] ICANN and the IGF

Carlos Afonso ca at rits.org.br
Mon Nov 19 07:49:00 EST 2007


Why do we need to reopen in this list the discussion of when who did 
what in 2003 or beyond? This led only to counterproductive divisions 
several years ago and might do the same now. I wonder why Veni is 
bringing this to the debate?

--c.a.

Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> This thread is now going down the usual path of "I did that first" and 
> "seven years ago you said that...". Anyway:
> 
> Veni Markovski ha scritto:
>> ICANN has been trying to be part of the solution (because the WSIS 
>> created a problem, and it required a solution, or else one would be 
>> left in the landscape) since 2003, and I think it's not fair of you to 
>> state something like "stupid approach" by "ICANN leadership", and make 
>> statement that "they were scared" of a discussion. You probably 
>> mistake this with the lack of desire to be proactive, and engage in a 
>> way you thought correct? Plus, at some point you were also part of 
>> this "leadership", so I guess you don't mean you were "stupid"?
> 
> You're the second person who takes that adjective personally, so let me 
> note that it is the approach which was stupid, not the people who 
> devised it. It happens every day to every intelligent person to take 
> stupid decisions, especially ones that reveal their 
> counterproductiveness only in hindsight (the intelligent people are not 
> those who do not take stupid decisions, but those who do not take twice 
> the same stupid decision). I take your implicit transfer of the 
> adjective from the strategy to the people as a sign that people like you 
[...]


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