[governance] Milton and the $ 175,000

[Veni Markovski]

Eh, Milton, Milton...
There's so much grief in today's world...

On 5/14/07, Milton Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>
> Veni, $87,500 per year for two years = what? Can you do the arithmetic?
>
> The "two" grants you refer to are one and the same. You made it sound as
> if we were getting 87.5k + another 170k. You are off by 50% not 3%. And
> you were flat wrong to say we didn't identify the source, because it's
> the same Ford grant that was publicly announced. So I'm still waiting
> for a retraction.


Let me try to type it again (copy & paste, and btw, if I have said, as you
wrongully quote me, 87.5 + 170K, I would have been off not with 50% but with
approx. 200 % as 100% of 87.5 = another 87.5). And quite frankly, seeing how
you continue to not admit you made a mistake, I don't expect you to beg my
pardon....

>where it says that Milton has received $ 87,500 from the Ford Foundation
for that
>project, but nothing about the rest of the $ 170,000 rumoured to have been
awarded
>to the project only by the Ford, and nothing about other donors?

So, I am not a native-English speaker, and I could be excused, when I make a
mistake, but here's how I read it, and you, as an English-native speaker,
probably would have read it the same, if you were not somewhat... I don't
know (afraid to publish a politically incorrect word here)...:

" [syr.edu] says Milton has received $ 87.500...", but there's no
information about the rest of the $ 170.000 [rest = $ 82.500]... awarded to
the MIGP by the ford... [and are there other donors?]" Obviously for someone
like you, who knows everything around the IGP, you could have said, "Oh,
Veni, it's not $ 170K, it's $ 175K, and $ 87.5 is half of this; the [syr.edu]
reports in the excel spreadsheet you linked only the part of the funding for
the 2006-2007, but the actual grant is $ 175K. Instead, you wrote it as if
the amount $ 170 K is made by me. And I considered this as you saying I am a
liar.

It's ok, everyone makes mistakes. Might be wise to be more careful when
> you pounce in public, though.


You're right, everyone makes mistakes, including you (unlesss, of course,
you consider yourself a God, huh?) ...

What was the point of this whole conversation, anyway?


The point was that you said I am a liar. And I just pointed out to the
facts, which you don't like. They are not bad facts, they are just facts.

veni
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