[governance] IGF workshops

Adam Peake ajp at glocom.ac.jp
Fri Jun 15 10:38:22 EDT 2007


Carlos, thanks, I did understand, I just hope 
coalitions that contact you will also ask for a 
slot on the official agenda.

Perhaps you should write to Markus and ask him to 
tell any coalition he hears from about the local 
organizers plans for the 11th etc.

Another matter.

Could you find out if rooms will be available 
after the main agenda is finished for the day. 
Large rooms, the 200 to 300 capacity rooms used 
for workshops and smaller spaces.

It would be helpful to have access to these large 
rooms should we wish to try and hold some kind of 
civil society meeting after each day (or some 
days).  And other stakeholders may also wish to 
do this.  Regional groups might wish to meet. 
And smaller rooms might be used for like minded 
groups (birds of a feather type.)  There are 
rooms set aside during the day for ad hoc type 
meetings (see "other meetings" on the schedule), 
but I think this is not appropriate, they would 
be better used for organized workshops.

Could you check about availability of rooms after 
hours (after 6PM?) Wonder if OK with security, 
building access, etc.

Thanks,

Adam



At 10:17 AM -0300 6/15/07, Carlos Afonso wrote:
>Adam, please note that I am not talking about 
>the slots within the IGF meeting itself. This is 
>a preparatory meeting before the IGF starts 
>(nov.11 is the suggested date, from 15:00 to 
>20:00).
>
>fraternal regards
>
>--c.a.
>
>Adam Peake wrote:
>>Carlos, Hi.
>>
>>This is good news.
>>
>>There are 6 slots on the agenda for dynamic 
>>coalitions 
>><http://www.intgovforum.org/Draft_Rio_Schedule.html> 
>>(with room for more perhaps.)
>>
>>The coalitions should submit room requests by 
>>July 31.  Their sessions will be 90 minutes. 
>>They will also have time to speak at the 
>>"reporting back" session (so people hear about 
>>their work, but also means it is in the 
>>official transcript and some people find that 
>>useful. In the "record" of the meeting.)
>>
>>Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>At 8:45 AM -0300 6/15/07, Carlos Afonso wrote:
>>>Dear people,
>>>
>>>I would like to recall that local organizers 
>>>of the IGF process in Brazil have agreed to 
>>>secure space and time for a forum of the 
>>>dynamic coalitions on the 11th of November in 
>>>the afternoon, so they can present their 
>>>proposals to the public before the IGF starts. 
>>>There will be also spaces for private meetings 
>>>of the DCs. All in the same venue of the IGF, 
>>>or at least this is what was promised to me.
>>>
>>>Would you please reinforce the need we have 
>>>here for a feedback from the DCs regarding 
>>>this? I have got none so far (although I sent 
>>>a first proposal to at least four of them 
>>>about two months ago), I think you are in 
>>>contact with more DCs than I am, and people 
>>>will certainly listen to you. If the decision 
>>>is not to make it or to use the space for 
>>>another kind of activity, fine, but we need to 
>>>know ASAP.
>>>
>>>I do not even know if Nov.11 is an acceptable 
>>>date for the DCs. We could do it on the 10th 
>>>(in this case it would not conflict with the 
>>>Giganet meeting) -- on this day there will be 
>>>a full-day APC wokshop on low-cost 
>>>connectivity, and DC people would have to be 
>>>in Rio one day earlier.
>>>
>>>Anyway, we need a feedback from the DCs (and 
>>>from the caucus) as soon as possible on this.
>>>
>>>fraternal regards
>>>
>>>--c.a.
>>>
>>>karen banks wrote:
>>>>hi parminder, bill
>>>>
>>>>parminder, thanks for moving us forward on workshop proposals
>>>>
>>>>>  > I want to re-state my proposal that IGC 
>>>>>does some workshops at IGF. It will
>>>>>>  serve both to push our substantive agenda, and to enhance the profile of
>>>>>>  IGC. I had earlier proposed three themes 
>>>>>>for workshops. All these are from
>>>>>>  our agreed priorities for IGF agenda (as per our input to May IGF
>>>>>>  consultations).
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Second, if we really want to foster 
>>>>>>dialogue on the four themes proposed,
>>>>>>  probably we ought to consider proposing 
>>>>>>workshops on each.  This could be done
>>>>>>  in addition to or instead of making a 
>>>>>>statement about the plenaries.  If it's
>>>>>>  impossible for the caucus to agree on such 
>>>>>>workshops, then varying coalitions
>>>>>>  of the willing could evolve each, perhaps 
>>>>>>with the caucus/list serving as
>>>>>>  initial facilitators.
>>>>
>>>>I think it's useful to think about the themed 
>>>>workshops, separately from the open workshops 
>>>>- in some ways.
>>>>
>>>>Themed workshops will feed into the main 
>>>>plenaries, and (i think) will be more 
>>>>influential in terms of framing the debates 
>>>>around the 4 themes (at least, this is my 
>>>>understanding of the rationale having themed 
>>>>worshops, prior to the same-theme main 
>>>>session).
>>>>
>>>>Open workshops will provide more space for 
>>>>addressing very specific issues, issues not 
>>>>addressed by the sub-themes, emerging issues 
>>>>etc
>>>>
>>>>I'm not sure about the caucus proposing 
>>>>workshops for all themes - that would be a 
>>>>lot of work, and i'm not sure is the best 
>>>>role for the caucus - the coalitions are 
>>>>working on proposals, several organisations 
>>>>etc.. and we don't want unnecssary 
>>>>duplication..
>>>>
>>>>but the caucus could play a useful role in
>>>>
>>>>- acting as a clearinghouse for any CS folk 
>>>>who want to let us know what they're planning 
>>>>for the IGF
>>>>
>>>>- support IGC members who are organising workshops (not as caucus events)
>>>>
>>>>- develop proposals for workshops which are 
>>>>central to the IGC objectives,  and which are 
>>>>difficult for others to organise 
>>>>(poliitically, lack of capacity, outreach etc)
>>>>
>>>>- work with ca and others in brazil to 
>>>>prepare for the pre IGF CS event - a good 
>>>>opportunity to prepare in general; and
>>>>specifically for day 1: critical internet 
>>>>resources (there are no workshops prior to 
>>>>this session)
>>>>
>>>>it makes good sense to develop workshops (or 
>>>>ideas for other inputs) around the 3 agreed 
>>>>IGC themes - that will ensure continuity, 
>>>>building on collective work etc - but, it's 
>>>>important for us to know as soon as possible 
>>>>what the sub-themes are as they will affect 
>>>>the nature of themed workshops proposed, and 
>>>>those that have to be open
>>>>
>>>>I know the CS MAG participants will let us 
>>>>know as soon as they can on that one
>>>>
>>>>So, maybe a good first round would be to go 
>>>>through each of these themes, discuss what 
>>>>type of format the issue could be best 
>>>>addressed in (eg bill has made some 
>>>>suggestions for how certain themes could be 
>>>>addressed) - i've added my own comments
>>>>
>>>>>  > (1) Global Internet Public Policy - Issues and Institutions
>>>>>
>>>>>>  a) What is "public policy" on the Internet 
>>>>>>and when do we need to use global
>>>>>>  institutions to establish it? The Tunis Agenda distinguishes between
>>>>>>  "technical" and "public policy" issues, 
>>>>>>and between public policy and the
>>>>>>  "day-to-day technical and operational matters." What makes an Internet
>>>>>>  governance issue a "public policy" issue, and what happens when policy
>>>>>>  concerns are closely linked to technical administration?
>>>>
>>>>i think this is interesting in and of 
>>>>itself.. and if you were really to do it 
>>>>justice, i think it would have to be a 
>>>>standalone (open?) workshop - they are only 
>>>>90 minutes long..  i think for something like 
>>>>this, you need a good backrgound paper.. i 
>>>>don't think you'd want to deal with the issue 
>>>>purely through workshop format
>>>>
>>>>>  > b) What was intended by the TA's call for the "development of
>>>>>>  globally-applicable principles on public 
>>>>>>policy issues associated with the
>>>>>>  coordination and management of critical 
>>>>>>Internet resources" and how can this
>>>>>>  goal be pursued?
>>>>
>>>>it's hard to know what's planned for the 
>>>>critical internet resources session - is it 
>>>>going to deal with in in line with (b) above? 
>>>>or is it more likely to focus on a 
>>>>challenge/problem (root zone file, dns 
>>>>ownership etc)
>>>>
>>>>but agree with bill, that we should focus 
>>>>energies around this issue, on the critical 
>>>>internet resources main session.. and how we 
>>>>can influence this
>>>>
>>>>>  > (2) Global Internet policies Impacting 
>>>>>Access to and Effective Use of the
>>>>>>  Internet by Disadvantaged People and 
>>>>>>Groups - The Development Agenda in IG
>>>>>>  (this can also build on the giganet session on a similar theme)
>>>>
>>>>bill commented extensively on this, and even 
>>>>if other proposals address this theme, it's 
>>>>broad and large enough a topic that if the 
>>>>IGC wanted to organise a workshop on this, 
>>>>there'd be plenty to talk about.. it would 
>>>>just be important to ensure there's no 
>>>>duplication of effort and some coordination 
>>>>between similar workshop proposals
>>>>
>>>>>  > (3) The Role and Mandate of the IGF.
>>>>>If there were to be a caucus proposal, I 
>>>>>would suggest it focus on this. The topic is 
>>>>>clearly specified, non-redundant, and 
>>>>>entirely workable, and one would think we'd 
>>>>>be able to reach agreement on a proposal 
>>>>>since it doesn't have to do with core 
>>>>>resources etc.  It's also something the 
>>>>>caucus has been raising for a long 
>>>>>while---in fact, for some of us, since before
>>>>>the WGIG---so Cs has already put down 
>>>>>markers on it and can make a distinct 
>>>>>contribution. I'd be willing to collaborate 
>>>>>with others on this if there's interest.
>>>>
>>>>i think this is interesting.. and forward looking, which we need..
>>>>
>>>>several contributors commented, usefully in 
>>>>the main i think, during consultations on 
>>>>concrete ways the IGF could address more 
>>>>elements of it's mandate.. including apc's 
>>>>contribution
>>>>
>>>>karen
>>>>
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