[governance] IGF workshops

Carlos Afonso ca at rits.org.br
Fri Jun 15 09:17:47 EDT 2007


Adam, please note that I am not talking about the slots within the IGF 
meeting itself. This is a preparatory meeting before the IGF starts 
(nov.11 is the suggested date, from 15:00 to 20:00).

fraternal regards

--c.a.

Adam Peake wrote:
> Carlos, Hi.
> 
> This is good news.
> 
> There are 6 slots on the agenda for dynamic coalitions 
> <http://www.intgovforum.org/Draft_Rio_Schedule.html> (with room for more 
> perhaps.)
> 
> The coalitions should submit room requests by July 31.  Their sessions 
> will be 90 minutes. They will also have time to speak at the "reporting 
> back" session (so people hear about their work, but also means it is in 
> the official transcript and some people find that useful. In the 
> "record" of the meeting.)
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> At 8:45 AM -0300 6/15/07, Carlos Afonso wrote:
>> Dear people,
>>
>> I would like to recall that local organizers of the IGF process in 
>> Brazil have agreed to secure space and time for a forum of the dynamic 
>> coalitions on the 11th of November in the afternoon, so they can 
>> present their proposals to the public before the IGF starts. There 
>> will be also spaces for private meetings of the DCs. All in the same 
>> venue of the IGF, or at least this is what was promised to me.
>>
>> Would you please reinforce the need we have here for a feedback from 
>> the DCs regarding this? I have got none so far (although I sent a 
>> first proposal to at least four of them about two months ago), I think 
>> you are in contact with more DCs than I am, and people will certainly 
>> listen to you. If the decision is not to make it or to use the space 
>> for another kind of activity, fine, but we need to know ASAP.
>>
>> I do not even know if Nov.11 is an acceptable date for the DCs. We 
>> could do it on the 10th (in this case it would not conflict with the 
>> Giganet meeting) -- on this day there will be a full-day APC wokshop 
>> on low-cost connectivity, and DC people would have to be in Rio one 
>> day earlier.
>>
>> Anyway, we need a feedback from the DCs (and from the caucus) as soon 
>> as possible on this.
>>
>> fraternal regards
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> karen banks wrote:
>>> hi parminder, bill
>>>
>>> parminder, thanks for moving us forward on workshop proposals
>>>
>>>>  > I want to re-state my proposal that IGC does some workshops at 
>>>> IGF. It will
>>>>>  serve both to push our substantive agenda, and to enhance the 
>>>>> profile of
>>>>>  IGC. I had earlier proposed three themes for workshops. All these 
>>>>> are from
>>>>>  our agreed priorities for IGF agenda (as per our input to May IGF
>>>>>  consultations).
>>>>
>>>>>  Second, if we really want to foster dialogue on the four themes 
>>>>> proposed,
>>>>>  probably we ought to consider proposing workshops on each.  This 
>>>>> could be done
>>>>>  in addition to or instead of making a statement about the 
>>>>> plenaries.  If it's
>>>>>  impossible for the caucus to agree on such workshops, then varying 
>>>>> coalitions
>>>>>  of the willing could evolve each, perhaps with the caucus/list 
>>>>> serving as
>>>>>  initial facilitators.
>>>
>>> I think it's useful to think about the themed workshops, separately 
>>> from the open workshops - in some ways.
>>>
>>> Themed workshops will feed into the main plenaries, and (i think) 
>>> will be more influential in terms of framing the debates around the 4 
>>> themes (at least, this is my understanding of the rationale having 
>>> themed worshops, prior to the same-theme main session).
>>>
>>> Open workshops will provide more space for addressing very specific 
>>> issues, issues not addressed by the sub-themes, emerging issues etc
>>>
>>> I'm not sure about the caucus proposing workshops for all themes - 
>>> that would be a lot of work, and i'm not sure is the best role for 
>>> the caucus - the coalitions are working on proposals, several 
>>> organisations etc.. and we don't want unnecssary duplication..
>>>
>>> but the caucus could play a useful role in
>>>
>>> - acting as a clearinghouse for any CS folk who want to let us know 
>>> what they're planning for the IGF
>>>
>>> - support IGC members who are organising workshops (not as caucus 
>>> events)
>>>
>>> - develop proposals for workshops which are central to the IGC 
>>> objectives,  and which are difficult for others to organise 
>>> (poliitically, lack of capacity, outreach etc)
>>>
>>> - work with ca and others in brazil to prepare for the pre IGF CS 
>>> event - a good opportunity to prepare in general; and
>>> specifically for day 1: critical internet resources (there are no 
>>> workshops prior to this session)
>>>
>>> it makes good sense to develop workshops (or ideas for other inputs) 
>>> around the 3 agreed IGC themes - that will ensure continuity, 
>>> building on collective work etc - but, it's important for us to know 
>>> as soon as possible what the sub-themes are as they will affect the 
>>> nature of themed workshops proposed, and those that have to be open
>>>
>>> I know the CS MAG participants will let us know as soon as they can 
>>> on that one
>>>
>>> So, maybe a good first round would be to go through each of these 
>>> themes, discuss what type of format the issue could be best addressed 
>>> in (eg bill has made some suggestions for how certain themes could be 
>>> addressed) - i've added my own comments
>>>
>>>>  > (1) Global Internet Public Policy - Issues and Institutions
>>>>
>>>>>  a) What is "public policy" on the Internet and when do we need to 
>>>>> use global
>>>>>  institutions to establish it? The Tunis Agenda distinguishes between
>>>>>  "technical" and "public policy" issues, and between public policy 
>>>>> and the
>>>>>  "day-to-day technical and operational matters." What makes an 
>>>>> Internet
>>>>>  governance issue a "public policy" issue, and what happens when 
>>>>> policy
>>>>>  concerns are closely linked to technical administration?
>>>
>>> i think this is interesting in and of itself.. and if you were really 
>>> to do it justice, i think it would have to be a standalone (open?) 
>>> workshop - they are only 90 minutes long..  i think for something 
>>> like this, you need a good backrgound paper.. i don't think you'd 
>>> want to deal with the issue purely through workshop format
>>>
>>>>  > b) What was intended by the TA's call for the "development of
>>>>>  globally-applicable principles on public policy issues associated 
>>>>> with the
>>>>>  coordination and management of critical Internet resources" and 
>>>>> how can this
>>>>>  goal be pursued?
>>>
>>> it's hard to know what's planned for the critical internet resources 
>>> session - is it going to deal with in in line with (b) above? or is 
>>> it more likely to focus on a challenge/problem (root zone file, dns 
>>> ownership etc)
>>>
>>> but agree with bill, that we should focus energies around this issue, 
>>> on the critical internet resources main session.. and how we can 
>>> influence this
>>>
>>>>  > (2) Global Internet policies Impacting Access to and Effective 
>>>> Use of the
>>>>>  Internet by Disadvantaged People and Groups - The Development 
>>>>> Agenda in IG
>>>>>  (this can also build on the giganet session on a similar theme)
>>>
>>> bill commented extensively on this, and even if other proposals 
>>> address this theme, it's broad and large enough a topic that if the 
>>> IGC wanted to organise a workshop on this, there'd be plenty to talk 
>>> about.. it would just be important to ensure there's no duplication 
>>> of effort and some coordination between similar workshop proposals
>>>
>>>>  > (3) The Role and Mandate of the IGF.
>>>> If there were to be a caucus proposal, I would suggest it focus on 
>>>> this. The topic is clearly specified, non-redundant, and entirely 
>>>> workable, and one would think we'd be able to reach agreement on a 
>>>> proposal since it doesn't have to do with core resources etc.  It's 
>>>> also something the caucus has been raising for a long while---in 
>>>> fact, for some of us, since before
>>>> the WGIG---so Cs has already put down markers on it and can make a 
>>>> distinct contribution. I'd be willing to collaborate with others on 
>>>> this if there's interest.
>>>
>>> i think this is interesting.. and forward looking, which we need..
>>>
>>> several contributors commented, usefully in the main i think, during 
>>> consultations on concrete ways the IGF could address more elements of 
>>> it's mandate.. including apc's contribution
>>>
>>> karen
>>>
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>> -- 
>>
>> Carlos A. Afonso
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Carlos A. Afonso
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