[governance] .xxx. igc and igf

[Jacqueline A. Morris]

Vittorio
Why not work in both forums? Work both within the ICANN process and the IGF?
Must it be either/or?
Jacqueline

-----Original Message-----
From: Vittorio Bertola [mailto:vb at bertola.eu] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:03 PM
To: governance at lists.cpsr.org; Milton Mueller
Subject: Re: [governance] .xxx. igc and igf

Milton Mueller ha scritto:
> True, of course I am not calling for starting from scratch. The IGF is
> a valuable forum for advocacy and a "bully pulpit" to use an American
> slang. I am not giving up on it and I hope my comments are not being
> interpreted that way. But the severe limits being placed on its agenda
> are a source of concern, especially when key actors in ICANN civil
> society (i.e., Vittorio) seem to be abandoning the opportunity to
> attempt to reform ICANN from an IGF-based platform. 

I must confess to be somehow lost in your reasoning.
First you complain that the IGF is a forum for advocacy and for 
discussion only.
Then you complain that ICANN reforms are not on the agenda of the IGF.
And finally you complain about abandoning an "opportunity to attempt to 
reform ICANN from the IGF" which, if you accept your premise six lines 
before, does not exist.
Earlier today, you complained that those from civil society who accept 
serving in positions at ICANN are being "soooooo easily co-opted" just 
to "feel important".
In the meantime, you serve as the Chair of one of the two civil society 
structures of ICANN.
So I'm not sure about what you are actually meaning, whether according 
to you it's good or bad for civil society to be engaged in ICANN, and 
what would be your practical suggestion for a politically feasible 
process to change ICANN and in what direction.

As for ICANN reforms and the IGF, what I've said is that, given that any 
reforms of ICANN will have to be approved by the Board of ICANN, it 
might be more productive to participate in the process that ICANN has 
set up at its own meetings to discuss its strategic evolution, rather 
than to stand at the "bully pulpit" in Rio to rant about how ICANN needs 
to change. But these are just my two cents.
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