[governance] Fleming

[David Goldstein]

Hey Joe, funny how only you and your bunch of
journeymen are the only ones on this list who believe
such utter crap.

And interesting that you think child pornography is
fine for everyone to have.

So if you and Jim think your ideas are so good, then
go set up your own mailing list instead of polluting
other lists, and see how many people subscribe. But
hey, I doubt you can meet that challenge as you're too
scared that there would be 2 or 3 of you who join.

David

--- Joe Baptista <baptista at cynikal.net> wrote:

> 
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, David Goldstein wrote:
> 
> > So Joe... you think it's censorship. I suggest
> it's
> > out of bounds of the aims of the list and there
> are
> > plenty of other places for you and Jim and you
> cronies
> > to go and annoy people. Hey, why not even start
> your
> > list? Or would it be there would be you Joe, Jim
> > and... ummm... would there be anyone else on the
> list?
> 
> Your arguments are clearly irrelevant and have no
> bearing in fact.
> 
> Anyone with a good technical background knows that
> Fleming knows his
> business, and indeed his commentary is relevant,
> unfortunately you have no
> idea what hes going on about - I understand - may I
> recommend you educate
> yourself.  Even call him up directly.
> 
> > And given you've brought up censorship Joe and you
> > seem to be of the view that anything is
> permissable,
> > does this mean Joe Baptista supports access to
> child
> > porn for everyone? Surely banning this would
> > censorship to you too?
> 
> Anything on the net is in fact permissible.  Those
> who know the technology
> know how to distribute anything they want.  Spam -
> child porn - or even
> more eclectic porn like old toothless grannies
> giving blow jobs.  Its all
> data.
> 
> The issue here is - does Jim have something relevant
> to say - indeed he
> does.  I don't agree with his approach - I think at
> this time we still
> have time to save the DNS.  BUt if that don't work -
> then Jim ideas are as
> relevant as anyone elses.
> 
> Jim s after all a recognized professional programmer
> who knows the
> networking field.  His ideas are therefore more
> relevant then some of the
> political idiocy I see here.  But then that my
> opinion.
> 
> cheers
> joe baptista
> 
> >
> > David
> > --- Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Joe,
> > > while this is possible to be done at the user's
> end,
> > > you would agree
> > > that people who are on dial-up, may still
> experience
> > > problems
> > > downloading Mb of unnecessary mail coming from
> the
> > > mailing list.
> > >
> > > I'd suggest to put the normal netiquette in
> place.
> > >
> > > veni
> > >
> > > At 08:20 22-10-05  -0400, Joe Baptista wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Ewan SUTHERLAND wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I think that "fleming" is now a spam word
> and
> > > can be filtered out
> > > >
> > > >Good idea Sutherland, use your spam filters and
> > > censor fleming yourselves,
> > > >do not censor him from the list.
> > >
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