[governance] Fleming

[Robert Guerra]

ok. please relate those comments to the important task at hand - that  
of preparing a strategy and response to the WSIS prepcom3 texts.

Many of us on this list are keen, very keen, to develop proposed -  
specific language - to contribute to the negotiations that will take  
place in a bit over 2 weeks time.

A collaborative  environment, one where we can work together ,  
despite our differences,  would be preferred. Many, myself included ,  
feel many of the discussions are "off topic" and counter productive  
to the immediate task at hand.

While Jim and others may have good, perhaps excellent ideas - the  
moment is not now. I hate to be blunt, but that is the fact. If Jim  
and others on her can focus and help us contribute to the WSIS , then  
- great! if not, can I kindly ask to wait until the WSIS is over in  
Nov. Is that too much to ask?


regards,

Robert

--
Robert Guerra <rguerra at privaterra.org>
Managing Director, Privaterra <http://www.privaterra.org>





On 22-Oct-05, at 9:31 PM, Joe Baptista wrote:

>
> On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, David Goldstein wrote:
>
>
>> So Joe... you think it's censorship. I suggest it's
>> out of bounds of the aims of the list and there are
>> plenty of other places for you and Jim and you cronies
>> to go and annoy people. Hey, why not even start your
>> list? Or would it be there would be you Joe, Jim
>> and... ummm... would there be anyone else on the list?
>>
>
> Your arguments are clearly irrelevant and have no bearing in fact.
>
> Anyone with a good technical background knows that Fleming knows his
> business, and indeed his commentary is relevant, unfortunately you  
> have no
> idea what hes going on about - I understand - may I recommend you  
> educate
> yourself.  Even call him up directly.
>
>
>> And given you've brought up censorship Joe and you
>> seem to be of the view that anything is permissable,
>> does this mean Joe Baptista supports access to child
>> porn for everyone? Surely banning this would
>> censorship to you too?
>>
>
> Anything on the net is in fact permissible.  Those who know the  
> technology
> know how to distribute anything they want.  Spam - child porn - or  
> even
> more eclectic porn like old toothless grannies giving blow jobs.   
> Its all
> data.
>
> The issue here is - does Jim have something relevant to say -  
> indeed he
> does.  I don't agree with his approach - I think at this time we still
> have time to save the DNS.  BUt if that don't work - then Jim ideas  
> are as
> relevant as anyone elses.
>
> Jim s after all a recognized professional programmer who knows the
> networking field.  His ideas are therefore more relevant then some  
> of the
> political idiocy I see here.  But then that my opinion.
>
> cheers
> joe baptista
>
>
>>
>> David
>> --- Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Joe,
>>> while this is possible to be done at the user's end,
>>> you would agree
>>> that people who are on dial-up, may still experience
>>> problems
>>> downloading Mb of unnecessary mail coming from the
>>> mailing list.
>>>
>>> I'd suggest to put the normal netiquette in place.
>>>
>>> veni
>>>
>>> At 08:20 22-10-05  -0400, Joe Baptista wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Ewan SUTHERLAND wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think that "fleming" is now a spam word and
>>>>>
>>> can be filtered out
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good idea Sutherland, use your spam filters and
>>>>
>>> censor fleming yourselves,
>>>
>>>> do not censor him from the list.
>>>>
>>>
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