[governance] Fleming

Joe Baptista baptista at cynikal.net
Sat Oct 22 21:31:32 EDT 2005


On Sun, 23 Oct 2005, David Goldstein wrote:

> So Joe... you think it's censorship. I suggest it's
> out of bounds of the aims of the list and there are
> plenty of other places for you and Jim and you cronies
> to go and annoy people. Hey, why not even start your
> list? Or would it be there would be you Joe, Jim
> and... ummm... would there be anyone else on the list?

Your arguments are clearly irrelevant and have no bearing in fact.

Anyone with a good technical background knows that Fleming knows his
business, and indeed his commentary is relevant, unfortunately you have no
idea what hes going on about - I understand - may I recommend you educate
yourself.  Even call him up directly.

> And given you've brought up censorship Joe and you
> seem to be of the view that anything is permissable,
> does this mean Joe Baptista supports access to child
> porn for everyone? Surely banning this would
> censorship to you too?

Anything on the net is in fact permissible.  Those who know the technology
know how to distribute anything they want.  Spam - child porn - or even
more eclectic porn like old toothless grannies giving blow jobs.  Its all
data.

The issue here is - does Jim have something relevant to say - indeed he
does.  I don't agree with his approach - I think at this time we still
have time to save the DNS.  BUt if that don't work - then Jim ideas are as
relevant as anyone elses.

Jim s after all a recognized professional programmer who knows the
networking field.  His ideas are therefore more relevant then some of the
political idiocy I see here.  But then that my opinion.

cheers
joe baptista

>
> David
> --- Veni Markovski <veni at veni.com> wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> > while this is possible to be done at the user's end,
> > you would agree
> > that people who are on dial-up, may still experience
> > problems
> > downloading Mb of unnecessary mail coming from the
> > mailing list.
> >
> > I'd suggest to put the normal netiquette in place.
> >
> > veni
> >
> > At 08:20 22-10-05  -0400, Joe Baptista wrote:
> >
> > >On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Ewan SUTHERLAND wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think that "fleming" is now a spam word and
> > can be filtered out
> > >
> > >Good idea Sutherland, use your spam filters and
> > censor fleming yourselves,
> > >do not censor him from the list.
> >
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