[governance] Ideas that this mailing list has agreed to

[Wolfgang Kleinwächter]

Ian,
 
this is what we shoukld say vwery cleary. This is, at leats in my ezes, the main message whichn should come from CS in Tunis and this is what I say since months. Thank you for saying it with such a clarity and with so little words.  
 
Best
 
wolfgang
 
  

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From: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org on behalf of Ian Peter
Sent: Wed 11/9/2005 8:45 PM
To: 'Avri Doria'; 'Parminder'
Cc: 'WSIS Internet Governance Caucus'
Subject: Re: [governance] Ideas that this mailing list has agreed to



Trying to summarise where we are up to/back to/currently at as regards
oversight role

Most of us see the unilateral control by USG as unacceptable in the long
term.

>From there on we probably have broad agreement as regards general public
policy oversight - yes, there is a role for governments in public policy
along with other stakeholders. (I haven't yet seen an argument that
governments have no role in public policy, and I haven't seen an argument
within CS that public policy is the sole domain of governments)

When we get into our current cyclical arguments on "all governments vs no
governments" we are generally talking about root zone authorisation role.

I content that the latter is a simple day to day management function and is
covered in our agreement that governments should not be involved in day to
day operations. Everything that matters about this is worked through
currently with good multistakeholder procedures, except for an unnecessary
and anachronistic authorisation function.

When the policy process has been carried out, this is just day to day
management stuff. The answer, then, is get USG out of the root, don't
replace the function, and shore up the current processes if necessary.








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> -----Original Message-----
> From: governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org
> [mailto:governance-bounces at lists.cpsr.org] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2005 5:18 AM
> To: Parminder
> Cc: WSIS Internet Governance Caucus
> Subject: Re: [governance] Ideas that this mailing list has agreed to
>
>
> On 9 nov 2005, at 09.15, Parminder wrote:
>
> >
> > Adam wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am sorry, if it is complicated - but I cannot simplify it to say
> > that - yes I want governmental control over Internet.
> >
>
> This is an area where we have fundamental disagreement.  I
> would prefer for governments to have no role in oversight. 
> Recognizing that this impossible I see it as an acceptable
> compromise to share governance of the internet with governments.
>
> If we cannot arrive at a multistakeholder notion of
> governance i think we will have failed.  And yes, I recognize
> that we don't all have the same definition of
> multistakeholder influence/stewardhsip and we don't all
> support its essential transforming importance.  To me,
> however, this is more important then any of the specific
> issues of modality.  The modalities of multstakeholderism are
> complex and I see the Forum as a space where these issues can
> be thrashed out.
>
> a.
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